Non PHB Domains in Society Games


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Some of the Golarion Deities have Domains that are not in the Players Hand Book, Do we just ignore those? or are we allowed to take them?

Have they answered this already?


You are not allowed to take them until next year when the rules change from 3.5 => Pathfinder RPG.

All you're allowed to take is stuff from the Player's Handbook and some equipment from the Campaign Setting.

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hogarth wrote:

You are not allowed to take them until next year when the rules change from 3.5 => Pathfinder RPG.

All you're allowed to take is stuff from the Player's Handbook and some equipment from the Campaign Setting.

Can you point that out to me where they said that.. Because I also Know they stated that you use the Golarion Pantheon... Which happen to have Domains not in the PHB.


Dragnmoon wrote:
Can you point that out to me where they said that.. Because I also Know they stated that you use the Golarion Pantheon... Which happen to have Domains not in the PHB.

I don't know what to tell you. Under "Step 2: Race and Class", it says "All of the options in the PH are available to you [except for item creation]." The only place it mentions using rules from the Campaign Setting is in "Step 8: Starting Equipment".

At any rate, I doubt I can prove to you that non-PHB stuff is not allowed, so we'll have to wait for Josh to provide the official answer.

Scarab Sages

Did you check the SRD to see if they are there. There is the standard list of Domains from the 3.5 PHB but there is also a second list of Domains in the SRD IIRC. I would guess anything in SRD would be allowed but I could be wrong.

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Dragnmoon wrote:

Some of the Golarion Deities have Domains that are not in the Players Hand Book, Do we just ignore those? or are we allowed to take them?

Have they answered this already?

As these Domains are quite probably present in the SRD and /or are described in the PFCSHC (didn't cross-check sorry), you are thusly entitled to take them.


Here's a quote from this thread:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderS ociety/general/archives/pCCreationRules

Michael Chu wrote:
So, I just read over the rules document and I didn't see anything that explicitly stated what resources could be used (other than the reference to using the Campaign Setting for additional items). Are the various feats/prestige classes in there also usable or no?
Joshua J. Frost wrote:

3.5 core rules only and the few items we mentioned in the guide book.

That's it for now.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Although I'm not the guy who makes the decisions on what is and isn't allowed (That's for Josh Frost to do!), all of the additional domains granted by Golarion's deities are indeed in the SRD; they're not anything particularly unusual in that regard. I'd suspect that they WOULD be allowed as a result... but I'm not sure yet. Josh is heading out to Gen Con UK tomorrow, but he might stop by here to render a decision (especially if I see him and prod him in the direction of this thread...)

I suspect, though, that for season 0 at least, they're still off-limits.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Although I'm not the guy who makes the decisions on what is and isn't allowed (That's for Josh Frost to do!), all of the additional domains granted by Golarion's deities are indeed in the SRD; they're not anything particularly unusual in that regard. I'd suspect that they WOULD be allowed as a result... but I'm not sure yet. Josh is heading out to Gen Con UK tomorrow, but he might stop by here to render a decision (especially if I see him and prod him in the direction of this thread...)

Eeeek!!!!..I was hoping to find out For Gen Con UK.. ;-)..

Asking him there.. might be a bit late..hmm... or maybe not..

Good to know they are leaving early to get over the Jet Lag...

Though Going Back is going to be worse!!!!

*Looking forward to the 9 Hour Drive to the Convention.. But not that I am doing it alone!*

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Pretty sure its limited to what's in the PH at this point. The GMs are told to have the core rulebooks and the PF Guide to Organized Play and the adventure on hand. Opening up the domains to the SRD means they have to have some copy of the SRD available to them, which not every GM may have.

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KnightErrantJR wrote:

Pretty sure its limited to what's in the PH at this point. The GMs are told to have the core rulebooks and the PF Guide to Organized Play and the adventure on hand. Opening up the domains to the SRD means they have to have some copy of the SRD available to them, which not every GM may have.

Then a sensible solution would be to reprint any SRD Domains required in the Organised Play guide 1.2.


No one blinked twice at a cleric with the Glory domain at GenCon Indy.

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I GMed, and I will freely admit that you could name a ton of domains that I wouldn't be able to tell you if they were or were not in the PH. Something like that probably wouldn't cause any problems unless there was actually some kind of contention about what the domain does, at which point, it becomes a problem because the GM can't look it up to see what is or isn't the problem.

I'm also not saying they shouldn't be included or whatever, just that, in order to make sure everything is fair the the GM can do their job, they have to have the material available, and if a problem never comes up, it probably wouldn't get noticed at all.

But, as it stands now, page 14 of Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, under Race and Class, says:

"All of the options in the PH are available to you with one minor adjustment. Magic Item creation is not used in Pathfinder Society Organized Play . . "

Edit: I obviously don't have any kind of official standing, I'm just relating how I interpreted the rules as a GM, and I will admit I didn't look that closely at clerical domains when we started the sessions, so that's entirely on me.


KnightErrantJR wrote:

I GMed, and I will freely admit that you could name a ton of domains that I wouldn't be able to tell you if they were or were not in the PH. Something like that probably wouldn't cause any problems unless there was actually some kind of contention about what the domain does, at which point, it becomes a problem because the GM can't look it up to see what is or isn't the problem.

I'm also not saying they shouldn't be included or whatever, just that, in order to make sure everything is fair the the GM can do their job, they have to have the material available, and if a problem never comes up, it probably wouldn't get noticed at all.

But, as it stands now, page 14 of Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, under Race and Class, says:

"All of the options in the PH are available to you with one minor adjustment. Magic Item creation is not used in Pathfinder Society Organized Play . . "

Edit: I obviously don't have any kind of official standing, I'm just relating how I interpreted the rules as a GM, and I will admit I didn't look that closely at clerical domains when we started the sessions, so that's entirely on me.

My understanding was that the Campaign Hardcover was fair game as well, and these domains are contained within it.

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Ulak wrote:


My understanding was that the Campaign Hardcover was fair game as well, and these domains are contained within it.

All so far all Josh has said is that you take the Gods from the Campaign book *Which they never said in the Society rules....* If that includes their Domains..is what I am trying to find out

Scarab Sages

Ulak wrote:
My understanding was that the Campaign Hardcover was fair game as well, and these domains are contained within it.

Not exactly. We were told we could only use the chapter on equipment. The PFCS is not fair game, because we've already been told that we cannot use other things within that book, such as the alternate class features.

The SRD is not the same thing as the 3.5 PH, and we've been told we can only use the 3.5 PH.

I do agree, however, that since Pathfinder deities are allowed, that the Guide should include a reprint of domains that are not within the PH.

At this rate, the next Guide is going to weigh a ton when printed... :)

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