So, as a little excercise in "what if" some of my players and I started to come up with a list of who should play the major characters in the STAP. Here's what we came up with. (Granted, the HEROES would be different in every campaign, and I included my minor NPCs...but you get the idea)
Lavinia Vanderboren: Angelina Jolie
Kora Whistlegap: Angela Lansbury
Idae/Adamaeus: Orlando Bloom
Ornrik Durthas: Michael Chiklis?
Saris Van Sky: Val Kilmer (The Top Gun "Iceman" version)
Viselys Mortaum: Chris Evans?
Tolin Kientai: Clive Owen
Zan Oldavin: Paul Bettany
Kaskus Kiel: Terry O'Quinn
Liamae Teslikaria: Shannyn Sossamon
Vanthus Vanderboren: Tim Roth
Soller Vark: Crispin Glover
Shefton Rosk: John C. Riley
Nemien Roblach: Kevin Bacon (come on, he had to make it in somewhere)
Rowyn Kellani: Christina Hendricks
Heldrath Kellani: Geena Davis
Brissa Santos: Keri Russell
Harliss Javell: Gina Torres
Diamondback: Summer Glau
Martha the Parrot: Gilbert Godfrey (voice)
Captain Amella Venkallie: Nicolette Sheridan
Urol Furol: Tony Shaloub
Skald: Johnny Depp
Father Feres/Conrad Horst:Joe Pantoliano
Lirith Veldirose: Courtney Love
Avner Meravanchi: Burt Reynolds
Quenge:
Banaby:
Tavey Nesk:
Miranda Rivers: Nicole Kidman
Jacob Weatherby: Isaac C. Singleton Jr.
Aiden Turlough:
Druce Calligan:
Bryson Talbot: Gary Senise
Gwenlian Talbot: Claire Danes
Gidrick Talbot: Connor Stanhope
Thunderstrike: Docs Keepin Time
Just thought it was a fun idea and might be fun to discuss here.
Urol Furol - Tony Shalhoub
Father Feres/Conrad Horst - That guy who played Cypher in The Matrix.
BTW, you have a lot of really good ones, but Martha the Parrot: Gilbert Godfrey (voice) - that's just brilliant!
Urol Furol - Tony Shalhoub
Father Feres/Conrad Horst - That guy who played Cypher in The Matrix.
BTW, you have a lot of really good ones, but Martha the Parrot: Gilbert Godfrey (voice) - that's just brilliant!
Oooh! Good ones! I added them to the first post.
And Martha...yeah. That was Aladdin-inspired. Troy found a talking parrot toy that hangs out at our table. It records what you say for a couple seconds and repeats it back to you in a higher pitch voice. It's quite funny. We usually have it set to say, "Clean the cage...clean the cage." Not sure why I made Diamondback an obsessive-complusive neat-freak, but it's had some fun impact on things.
Lavinia: If only Shelley Duvall were younger...
Please LEAVE BURT REYNOLDS OUT OF FANTASY MOVIES! Its better - I endured the Dungeon Siege Movie - Leave him out of the casting list PLEASE!!!
I've never seen Dungeon Siege, but from your post I'm guessing that he's Burt Reynolds is in it? Be that as it may, I can't think of many people better suited to Avner Meravanchi than Burt Reynolds. Well, maybe Hugh Grant maybe.
That picture of Avner reminded me of Tim Curry - how about casting him?
That picture of Avner reminded me of Tim Curry - how about casting him?
Oh, I'd love to see Tim Curry in a STAP film, but I'm not sure about him as Avner. Most assuredly he could play the role, and well, but if I was going to cast Tim Curry, I’d suggest him as Vanthus. I notice that Tracer chose Tim Roth for Vanthus. Good, but I think Curry would be better.
By the way, what is it with you Yanks always casting the baddies as British? You lot won that whole revolution of yours. Twice, in fact. Can’t you let it go now? (Of course I say this good-naturedly in the spirit of humour).
That picture of Avner reminded me of Tim Curry - how about casting him?
Oh, I'd love to see Tim Curry in a STAP film, but I'm not sure about him as Avner. Most assuredly he could play the role, and well, but if I was going to cast Tim Curry, I’d suggest him as Vanthus. I notice that Tracer chose Tim Roth for Vanthus. Good, but I think Curry would be better.
By the way, what is it with you Yanks always casting the baddies as British? You lot won that whole revolution of yours. Twice, in fact. Can’t you let it go now? (Of course I say this good-naturedly in the spirit of humour).
Perhaps we are jealous of the accent. It seems to lend some air of authority, regardless of what is spoken.
Perhaps we are jealous of the accent. It seems to lend some air of authority, regardless of what is spoken.By the way, what is it with you Yanks always casting the baddies as British? You lot won that whole revolution of yours. Twice, in fact. Can’t you let it go now? (Of course I say this good-naturedly in the spirit of humour).
So, you’re saying that it’s not that you’re vilifying us, but paying us a complement? I’m not sure I buy it, but accept it for the sake of good will.
Eddie explains it well. But yeah I think I would hit more brit actors for STAP the movie. Derek Jacobi would be one scary Demogorgon---well two Demogorgons O:). Hmmm now that I think about it Eddie could play Vanthus...
Eddie explains it well.
See, it’s not just me. It started with King George and you haven’t gotten over it since. Although, now that you bring Eddie Izzard into the mix, that brings up another Brit-centered American stereotype. When you cast your films, if the Brit isn’t the pompous, aristocratic villain, then he’s an enthusiast of musical theatre. Between Eddie Izzard and Graham Norton and the obligatory poof in every British sitcom, I know what you think about us. Well, we’re invading your television, and you don’t even realize it. There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!
Eddie explains it well.There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!
Yeah I know what you mean. Michael J Fox, William Shatner, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Keith Ledger, Martin Short, Hugh Jackman. Rick Moranis. :P
There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!
Yeah, but the US has Renée Zellweger.
Interesting and fun idea. Just a couple of initial comments.
YIKES! Burt Reynolds is far, *FAR* too old to play Avner Meravanchi. Manthalay maybe... Avner is in his early to mid-twenties only slightly older than Lavinia.
it's Gilbert Gottfried...
HEATH Ledger is no longer with us.
John C Riley is too... Big... to play poor Shefton. But I think he needs to be in the cast somewhere.
Johnny Depp needs a better part than Skald. Maybe as some other recurring NPC.
I had pictured Heldrath Kellani as a bit older, maybe Dame Judy Dench.
I'd go younger on Brissa Santos as well. Maybe Zooey Deschanel, Scarlett Johansson or someone like that.
Cheers!
Almost put flushed away on tonight and then I realized I was using Kate Winslett's voice for Lavinia. Last time I watched it was 'still playing' when my party showed up so her voice would be fresh in their heads. Come to think of it I used Dench's voice for Cora whistlegap (as Jean Pargiter not M or even QE.) Harliss Jarvell got Kiera Knightly-yes had that one playing too. :) So there you go; two brits on the hero side and a third on the not villain list O:).
Urol Furol - Tony Shalhoub
Father Feres/Conrad Horst - That guy who played Cypher in The Matrix.
BTW, you have a lot of really good ones, but Martha the Parrot: Gilbert Godfrey (voice) - that's just brilliant!
Oooh! Good ones! I added them to the first post.
And Martha...yeah. That was Aladdin-inspired. Troy found a talking parrot toy that hangs out at our table. It records what you say for a couple seconds and repeats it back to you in a higher pitch voice. It's quite funny. We usually have it set to say, "Clean the cage...clean the cage." Not sure why I made Diamondback an obsessive-complusive neat-freak, but it's had some fun impact on things.
I thought Martha was an insurance duck? Or was it a blue bird with a propeller tail? I just heard him playing a dog or bear or something this week too.
Yeah I know what you mean. Michael J Fox, William Shatner, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Keith Ledger, Martin Short, Hugh Jackman. Rick Moranis. :PEddie explains it well.There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!
I have no idea what you are trying to say. What films have you seen in which Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Adam Sandler, Martin Short or Rick Moranis have portayed a convincing English accent? Mel Gibson and Hugh Jackman are Australian and can feign American accents very well. Finally, I have not seen many films with him, but I know his name is "Heath" Ledger, not "Keith," and he was also Australian.
There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!Yeah, but the US has Renée Zellweger.
Excellent example, but the exception rather than the rule.
Interesting and fun idea. Just a couple of initial comments.
YIKES! Burt Reynolds is far, *FAR* too old to play Avner Meravanchi. Manthalay maybe... Avner is in his early to mid-twenties only slightly older than Lavinia...
HEATH Ledger is no longer with us...
I got the impression that this was fantasy. So you cast a "young" Burt Reynolds and a living Heath Ledger. After all, this film would never be made in reality.
Yeah I know what you mean. Michael J Fox, William Shatner, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Keith Ledger, Martin Short, Hugh Jackman. Rick Moranis. :P
That's actually quite funny considering that Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Martin Short and Rick Moranis are all Canadian born actors :D
I got the impression that this was fantasy. So you cast a "young" Burt Reynolds and a living Heath Ledger. After all, this film would never be made in reality.
After Beowulf, I wouldn't say "never."
I got the impression that this was fantasy. So you cast a "young" Burt Reynolds and a living Heath Ledger. After all, this film would never be made in reality.After Beowulf, I wouldn't say "never."
Excellent point! CG is getting to the point that soon all actors will be voice actors. That's pure speculation on my part, by the way, but it certainly would allow actors to play younger versions of themselves.
Who owns the rights to Savage Tide? One good movie sale could keep Paizo in the black for a long long time!
I have no idea what you are trying to say. What films have you seen in which Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Adam Sandler, Martin Short or Rick Moranis have portayed a convincing English accent? Mel Gibson and Hugh Jackman are Australian and can feign American accents very well. Finally, I have not seen many films with him, but I know his name is "Heath" Ledger, not "Keith," and he was also Australian.Yeah I know what you mean. Michael J Fox, William Shatner, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Keith Ledger, Martin Short, Hugh Jackman. Rick Moranis. :PEddie explains it well.There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!
...I was making a joke since none of them are brits... :P my bad on Heath with a K.
...I was making a joke since none of them are brits... :P my bad on Heath with a K.I have no idea what you are trying to say. What films have you seen in which Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Adam Sandler, Martin Short or Rick Moranis have portayed a convincing English accent? Mel Gibson and Hugh Jackman are Australian and can feign American accents very well. Finally, I have not seen many films with him, but I know his name is "Heath" Ledger, not "Keith," and he was also Australian.Yeah I know what you mean. Michael J Fox, William Shatner, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Keith Ledger, Martin Short, Hugh Jackman. Rick Moranis. :PEddie explains it well.There’s more British actors who can do American accents than the other way round. [Maniac villain laughter] –oops. Oh, blast!
I get that, but your joke would have made more sense if you had picked all American–born celebrities. (Get it? Cele-BRIT-ies? Okay, that’s poor.)
As far as American talent with accent skills, someone mentioned Renée Zellweger. She’s a great example. Gwyneth Paltrow, also. I give credit to Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves for trying in Bram Stoker’s Dracula, but the execution leaves a great deal to be desired. Oh, yes, which reminds me of Christian Slater, who also makes a worthy attempt in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, notable less for his dialectic talent than because of contrast to Kevin Costner, who didn’t even try.
Jokes make sense? BAH!
Maybe you do not see it on your side of the pond, but any actor without an American accent MUST be from Britain. Ok Japanese accents must be from china (often no distinction is made there as well). Hollywood has made us lazy to learn the differences.
Listening to world news is only a slightly better, probably because Americans who listen to world news, LISTEN to world news. Then speakers can be British, Chinese, Middle-eastern or some third world country schooled in England, China, or the middle east. (wow I do not have a very high opinion of what Hollywood has done to my fellow 'Mericans do I :)
Who owns the rights to Savage Tide?
That would be Wizards of the Coast.
One good movie sale could keep Paizo in the black for a long long time!
I agree...but badly done it could go the other way. :O
Who owns the rights to Savage Tide?That would be Wizards of the Coast.
One good movie sale could keep Paizo in the black for a long long time!I agree...but badly done it could go the other way. :O
Case in point: Dungeons & Dragons The Movie.
Jokes make sense? BAH!
Maybe you do not see it on your side of the pond, but any actor without an American accent MUST be from Britain. Ok Japanese accents must be from china (often no distinction is made there as well). Hollywood has made us lazy to learn the differences.
Listening to world news is only a slightly better, probably because Americans who listen to world news, LISTEN to world news. Then speakers can be British, Chinese, Middle-eastern or some third world country schooled in England, China, or the middle east. (wow I do not have a very high opinion of what Hollywood has done to my fellow 'Mericans do I :)
OMG!!! If I follow you rightly, I think I agree with everything you said.
I can't speak for my countrymen as a whole, but I’ve done a great deal of traveling, so my ear is pretty sensitive to accents and dialects. I hear many people talk about a “Lancashire” accent, and I reply “Oldham, Salford, Bolton…?” But I’m sure you could relate. A “Southern” accent in the States sounds very different in Georgia or Louisiana (I’m glad I’m typing, because you would certainly tare me apart for the way I would pronounce Louisiana – and if not you, someone from Louisiana certainly would).
If you are just listening to BBC News, you will get a very London accent. In fact, I have found that that is what most Americans think of when they refer to an “English accent.”
Oh, and back to what led us to this, you mentioned Hugh Jackman – and Australian who did a very good American accent in the X-Men series.
A few of my fellow Brits who are appearing on your televisions that you might not have been aware of (because of their dialectic talents):
Jack Davenport (Swing City)
Jamie Bamber (Battlestar Galactica)
Sophia Myles (Moonlight)
Kevin McKidd (Journeyman)
Ray Stevenson (Babylon Fields)
Zuleikha Robinson (New Amsterdam)
Lena Headey (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)
Damian Lewis (Life)
Ed Westwick (Gossip Girl)
Michelle Ryan (The Bionic Woman)
Hugh Laurie (House)
This is what I mean. We’re taking over your television.
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Somebody mentioned earlier that as this was a fantasy we could cast younger versions of actors and even dead ones...people we are not taking this to the extreme...we have the whole history of hollywood to work from...ST is a rip roaring swashbuckling adventure in many cases so where the parts for the greats of the genre
Can you imagine a Savage tide with Power, Flynn and both Fairbanks all in their prime and Basil Rathbone as a villian? My god we could even have Robert Newton as a pirate
Not to mention the young Maureen O'Hara and Olivia de Havilland as the love interest
Think big guys..we have over a hundred years of movies to plunder not just the last 10 to 15
Yeah, that was me, and I based that on Tracer's original posting:
Saris Van Sky: Val Kilmer (The Top Gun "Iceman" version)
Unless I'm mistaken, Saris is one of the PCs. If you are going to cast an actor in the visage of his 80s character, then I would suppose that all of history is open to you (e.g. Burt Reynolds in his “Smokey and the Bandit” days).
Incidentally, someone comment on actors being to “big” or “tall” for a role. I don’t recall to whom they were referring, but one can assume that height is not a factor. Anyone who saw Lord Of The Rings with John Rhys-Davies (a Welshman, incidentally) as Gimli knows that. I don’t think it would be any more difficult for Michael Chiklis to play a dwarf.
However, when reaching into history to pull older (or rather younger) versions of actors, while I suppose that Maureen O’Hara and Douglas Fairbanks are fair game, I think that the “feel” for the movie should be considered. For example, if you cast a film with actors from the 30s, you would expect the film to be black and white and the dinosaurs to be stop-motion animation. If you cast the film with modern actors (with “younger versions” as an exception rather than the rule) you can have a widescreen colour picture with CG dinosaurs. Yes, I understand in this hypothetical fantasy you COULD have Flynn in colour battling a CG T-Rex, but I just don’t think it would FEEL right.
But, truth be told, Tracer started this thread, so I think he should make the ruling on it.
(I actually think a Fairbanks/Flynn/O’Hara/de Havilland version would be wonderful with Ray Harryhausen on special effects. Then Tracer’s casting could be the “remake” (or do we say “re-imagining” these days?).
OK Maybe your right..in which case the original is definitely a Michael Curtiz movie and the remake a Peter Jackson one (or maybe a Sam Raimi one given the horror content)
If you've got Sam Raimi directing, one of you lot better figure out how to fit Bruce Campbell into that cast somewhere.
And if it's Tracer's STAP, then it best be Raimi over Jackson. Trust me. (Or don't. Go check out the blog yourself).
But, truth be told, Tracer started this thread, so I think he should make the ruling on it.
Well, if I get to make some sort of "official" ruling...we were just thinking of actors/characters that represented the PCs/NPCs in question. Any time, any era...whatever fits, you know?
And yes...Saris is one of the PCs in my game...and many of those listed are NPCs that I just made up to fill out the crew of the Sea Wyvern.
And if it's Tracer's STAP, then it best be Raimi over Jackson. Trust me. (Or don't. Go check out the blog yourself).
Just out of curiosity (you're totally right, by the way), what made you think this? Did I make a Raimi/Campbell reference in there somewhere?
And if it's Tracer's STAP, then it best be Raimi over Jackson. Trust me. (Or don't. Go check out the blog yourself).Just out of curiosity (you're totally right, by the way), what made you think this? Did I make a Raimi/Campbell reference in there somewhere?
You might have done, but I was just thinking more the tone of the story. It seems more "Evil Dead" than "Lord of the Rings," given that choice. Did you read Wellard's comment before mine? I didn't just pull the idea out of nothing - he really gets the credit.
You might have done, but I was just thinking more the tone of the story. It seems more "Evil Dead" than "Lord of the Rings," given that choice. Did you read Wellard's comment before mine? I didn't just pull the idea out of nothing - he really gets the credit.
Ah, ok. I totally agree...I run a bit more "aloof" game than a hardcore "epic." It's just that I'm a Campbell/Raimi fanatic...so I particularly enjoyed that comment.
A few of my fellow Brits who are appearing on your televisions that you might not have been aware of (because of their dialectic talents):
Jack Davenport (Swing City)
Jamie Bamber (Battlestar Galactica)
Sophia Myles (Moonlight)
Kevin McKidd (Journeyman)
Ray Stevenson (Babylon Fields)
Zuleikha Robinson (New Amsterdam)
Lena Headey (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)
Damian Lewis (Life)
Ed Westwick (Gossip Girl)
Michelle Ryan (The Bionic...
I was surprised to hear Bamber's accent so I would agree with you on this one. I had seen [Baltor?] on Into the Heat of the Sun, so knew about his. I had also seen Lauri as Jeeves, so I can sort of hear it, but only if I really listen. Same with Davenport thanks to Coupling and Pirates though I have never seen swing city. Now that you mention it, I have not seen most of the shows on your list, so will assume they are in the Bamber-shock category. O:)
I was surprised to hear Bamber's accent so I would agree with you on this one. I had seen [Baltor?] on Into the Heat of the Sun, so knew about his. I had also seen Lauri as Jeeves, so I can sort of hear it, but only if I really listen. Same with Davenport thanks to Coupling and Pirates though I have never seen swing city. Now that you mention it, I have not seen most of the shows on your list, so will assume they are in the Bamber-shock category. O:)The one that stands out most to me is Sophia Myles. She was in one of my favorite instalments of Doctor Who and, in real life, actually dated the Doctor. Then she turns up on this American vampire program. I remember thinking, "You stole her from us!"
And Lena Headey (anyone seen "300"). Now she's Sarah Connor? And doing a bang up job, I must say.
I know there's more that I just can't think of. I haven't seen most of the shows I listed either; I got most from an article I read.
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So, as a little excercise in "what if" some of my players and I started to come up with a list of who should play the major characters in the STAP. Here's what we came up with. (Granted, the HEROES would be different in every campaign, and I included my minor NPCs...but you get the idea)
Lavinia Vanderboren: Angelina Jolie
Kora Whistlegap: Angela Lansbury
Idae/Adamaeus: Orlando Bloom
Ornrik Durthas: Michael Chiklis?
Saris Van Sky: Val Kilmer (The Top Gun "Iceman" version)
Viselys Mortaum: Chris Evans?
Tolin Kientai: Clive Owen
Zan Oldavin: Paul Bettany
Kaskus Kiel: Terry O'Quinn
Liamae Teslikaria: Shannyn Sossamon
Vanthus Vanderboren: Tim Roth
Soller Vark: Crispin Glover
Shefton Rosk: John C. Riley
Nemien Roblach: Kevin Bacon (come on, he had to make it in somewhere)
Rowyn Kellani: Christina Hendricks
Heldrath Kellani: Geena Davis
Brissa Santos: Keri Russell
Harliss Javell: Gina Torres
Diamondback: Summer Glau
Martha the Parrot: Gilbert Godfrey (voice)
Captain Amella Venkallie: Nicolette Sheridan
Urol Furol: Tony Shaloub
Skald: Johnny Depp
Father Feres/Conrad Horst:Joe Pantoliano
Lirith Veldirose: Courtney Love
Avner Meravanchi: Burt Reynolds
Quenge:
Banaby:
Tavey Nesk:
Miranda Rivers: Nicole Kidman
Jacob Weatherby: Isaac C. Singleton Jr.
Aiden Turlough:
Druce Calligan:
Bryson Talbot: Gary Senise
Gwenlian Talbot: Claire Danes
Gidrick Talbot: Connor Stanhope
Thunderstrike: Docs Keepin TimeJust thought it was a fun idea and might be fun to discuss here.
Angelina Jolie would be a terrible Lavinia... Lavinia should be younger, in her early to mid 20's. If anything Jolie would be my choice for either Malcanthet or Iggwilv. Let's let a star be one of the most powerful NPC's shall we? Lavinia would be better played by a fresher face like Maggie Grace or Mary Elizabeth Winsted.
Tim Roth as Vanthus would be pretty cool, but he too is a bit too old for that role. Cillian Murphy perhaps?
I am supposing that you (Tracer) chose Nicole Kidman as your bard, Miranda Rivers, because of her singing in Moulin Rouge. I will admit that she had a very adequate voice, but might I make another suggestion: Charlotte Church. She may not be very well known in the States (I honestly do not know), but she’s a bit of all right over here. I’d compare her voice to Sarah Brightman, but she’s much younger.
I am supposing that you (Tracer) chose Nicole Kidman as your bard, Miranda Rivers, because of her singing in Moulin Rouge. I will admit that she had a very adequate voice, but might I make another suggestion: Charlotte Church. She may not be very well known in the States (I honestly do not know), but she’s a bit of all right over here. I’d compare her voice to Sarah Brightman, but she’s much younger.
Charlotte Church gets a lot of PBS airtime so she is known to a certain crowd even here in the states. However IMHO her acting is non-existent in these so not someone I would want to have a speaking part. O:)
Charlotte Church gets a lot of PBS airtime so she is known to a certain crowd even here in the states. However IMHO her acting is non-existent in these so not someone I would want to have a speaking part. O:)
If you've read Tracer's blog, you know that his bard doesn't get a lot of speaking lines. She's just there to look good (presumably) and perform music (there's a lot of music in that blog - we should be talking about a soundtrack album, too). So Charlotte Church would still be a great choice. Besides, she's a talent, and I don’t just mean her singing.
I think that the casting for the bard has already been made by Tracer himself. Check out this example from Tracer’s blog. It’s a very funny use of this song from The Man Of La Mancha and the singer has an incredible voice. I’d say there’s your casting right there.
Regarding what Curaigh and I were talking about, though, I believe you can teach a singer to act passably well, but truly exceptional singing can only be learnt from years and years of practice. The bard needs to be a singer (or a very believable pantomime).
I am supposing that you (Tracer) chose Nicole Kidman as your bard, Miranda Rivers, because of her singing in Moulin Rouge. I will admit that she had a very adequate voice, but might I make another suggestion: Charlotte Church. She may not be very well known in the States (I honestly do not know), but she’s a bit of all right over here. I’d compare her voice to Sarah Brightman, but she’s much younger.
hehehe...actually, we originally thought that Nicole Kidman looked a little like the figure we were using for Miranda. The fact that she could sing was just a bonus.
It's funny how big a part of the game singing has become...I'm trying to convince Troy that Adameus ought to take a level or two of bard, but he's pretty well set to stick with rogue levels...
Oh, and back to what led us to this, you mentioned Hugh Jackman – an Australian who did a very good American accent in the X-Men series.
I just saw Guy Pierce (L.A. Confidential) in one of his Australian movies about a bank heist -- my God, the man needs subtitles, you can barely understand a word he says -- and then you see him in Memento with almost no accent.