Creating a 3PP Character Generator for 4E


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Huh. This guy's asking for help to create a third-party PC generator using the 4E rules. Isn't there something in the GSL that forbids that or something?


I seem to recall that creating a Character Generator is exclusively against the GSL. I'm not reading the GSL right now, but I would swear thats in there.

I recall my gut reaction as a Character Generator being a product that only WoTC will be able to provide to the market.


joela wrote:
Huh. This guy's asking for help to create a third-party PC generator using the 4E rules. Isn't there something in the GSL that forbids that or something?

Yes, if you agree to the GSL.

- Ashavan


Yasha0006 wrote:

I seem to recall that creating a Character Generator is exclusively against the GSL. I'm not reading the GSL right now, but I would swear thats in there.

I recall my gut reaction as a Character Generator being a product that only WoTC will be able to provide to the market.

Y'see, making a character generator is against the GSL, but then again you can technically make a product without the GSL. Now whether or not WotC likes it is a different story, but legally you can make something like that for free as long as it's not quoting the PHB verbatim.


Its not a website but there is a spreadsheet called Character Forge out there that is fantastic.


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The GSL is not an Act of Congress that applies to anyone (in the US that is). It is a commercial contract, and it only applies to you if you decide to enter into a contractual relationship with Wizards that follows the terms laid down in the GSL. If you don't, the GSL has no relevance to anything you do. It's just you and the (copyright) law than.


Zaister wrote:
The GSL is not an Act of Congress that applies to anyone (in the US that is). It is a commercial contract, and it only applies to you if you decide to enter into a contractual relationship with Wizards that follows the terms laid down in the GSL. If you don't, the GSL has no relevance to anything you do. It's just you and the (copyright) law than.

Y'know, that brings up another question for me: Does current copyright law let you reference books by page without an agreement?


Panda-s1 wrote:
Zaister wrote:
The GSL is not an Act of Congress that applies to anyone (in the US that is). It is a commercial contract, and it only applies to you if you decide to enter into a contractual relationship with Wizards that follows the terms laid down in the GSL. If you don't, the GSL has no relevance to anything you do. It's just you and the (copyright) law than.
Y'know, that brings up another question for me: Does current copyright law let you reference books by page without an agreement?

I'm not a lawyer, but the copyright law says:

Copyright Law wrote:

Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:

(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;

(2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work;

(3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;

(4) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works, to perform the copyrighted work publicly;

(5) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, to display the copyrighted work publicly; and

(6) in the case of sound recordings, to perform the copyrighted work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission.

So, I believe there's no problem on refering to page numbers.


Panda-s1 wrote:


Y'know, that brings up another question for me: Does current copyright law let you reference books by page without an agreement?

Relatively safe, depending on what you are doing with it (i.e. if you don't step on other IP, just referencing the work isn't likely to be a problem IMO).

This is exactly what I've done in the 4E PHB Powers Index I mentioned in another thread. It's just an alphabetic list of powers and a reference to the corresponding PHB page number.


Actually, now that I think about it they didn't put page numbers in the SRD, just in case any editing in future printings bumps stuff around. So I guess it's just names and names alone. Maybe not the best idea, but what're you gonna do?

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