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While a target is marked, it takes -2 penalty on attack rolls for any attack that doesn't include you as a target. Also it takes radiant damage equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier the first time it makes an attack that doesn't include you as a target before the start of your next turn.
"it takes radiant damage equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier the first time it makes an attack that doesn't include you as a target before the start of your next turn."
I'm confused by this sentence. Does that mean that the target takes damage the first time it attacks someone else potentially every round, if it does so, or just the first time it does so after being marked, and no more for the rest of the encounter/until its unmarked?
| David Marks |
It means that while a creature is affected by a Paladin's Mark, the first attack it makes every round that does NOT include the Paladin inflicts damage upon it. If it makes no attacks, or if all attacks include the Paladin, then no problem. If it makes multiple attacks that do not include the Paladin, it is only damaged by one.
Hope that helps!
Russ Taylor
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6
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It means that while a creature is affected by a Paladin's Mark, the first attack it makes every round that does NOT include the Paladin inflicts damage upon it. If it makes no attacks, or if all attacks include the Paladin, then no problem. If it makes multiple attacks that do not include the Paladin, it is only damaged by one.
Hope that helps!
With the additional phrasing "before the start of your next turn", it also means that if it attacks someone other than you after your (the paladin's) next turn, it takes no damage. You need to reapply the challenge to keep the damage going.
The Red Death
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It means that while a creature is affected by a Paladin's Mark, the first attack it makes every round that does NOT include the Paladin inflicts damage upon it. If it makes no attacks, or if all attacks include the Paladin, then no problem. If it makes multiple attacks that do not include the Paladin, it is only damaged by one.
Hope that helps!
Every round. Wow.
It does answer my question! Thanks very "muchly", Sir Dave. :-)
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With the additional phrasing "before the start of your next turn", it also means that if it attacks someone other than you after your (the paladin's) next turn, it takes no damage. You need to reapply the challenge to keep the damage going.
That's what's confusing to me. This means I have to spend a minor action every round to keep the condition going?
| David Marks |
That's what's confusing to me. This means I have to spend a minor action every round to keep the condition going?
I don't believe that is a correct interpretation, but, alas, work prevents me from being able to reference my books. I think the only requirements are that the Paladin either A) attack his Marked enemy on his turn or B) end his movement adjacent to his Marked enemy.
If he fails to do either, the Mark ends and he cannot Mark on his next turn.
Cheers! :)
Edit: As an addendum, if you're wonder why it would include the text "before the start of your next turn" if the effect doesn't end, I believe that is there to indicate the target can only take the damage once per round. It could be stated clearer though (and having my books would make sorting this out much easier!)
Russ Taylor
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6
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Russ Taylor wrote:With the additional phrasing "before the start of your next turn", it also means that if it attacks someone other than you after your (the paladin's) next turn, it takes no damage. You need to reapply the challenge to keep the damage going.That's what's confusing to me. This means I have to spend a minor action every round to keep the condition going?
I don't see any other way to interpret the text they've written. If they were trying to say "you only take damage once per round", they would have used different phrasing.
It certainly is possibly they didn't write what they meant to write, in which case it'll get clarified.
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It certainly is possibly they didn't write what they meant to write, in which case it'll get clarified.
That's what I believe. I think you have to maintain the marking (either attack the target or be adjacent to it at the end of your turn) for the target to be subjected to the condition. I.e. you don't have to spend a minor action every round. This seems counter-intuitive to the concept.