I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.
As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
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I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
I am not saying this as a slight, but as an observation - I do not think an accurate impression can be made from watching 4e. I believe you need to really play it to get a solid feel for it.
I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
Dude, any game of D&D is gonna look like Warhammer Quest with fancy miniatures and maps. Last year's Gameday had the same thing, but I like playing D&D with miniatures.
And while the tiefling is different from it's last incarnation, a lot of people like it 'cause they look cool like that.
I got a chance to look through the book today, and as with so many things, I believe Groucho sums it up perfectly:
"Clear? Huh! Why a four-year-old child could understand this [PHB]. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head or tail out of it."
The PHB, at least to me seemed unnecessarily byzantine. Where they could just as easily have said "You add two to your attack rolls when using this power, and roll double damage when you reach 19th level," they unnecessarily complicated it with "1[w]+strength" and other quasi-mathematical notations, without helpfully explaining until much later in the book that [w]=weapon damage dice.
Also, am I heretical in thinking that the amount of magical items int he game is overkill?
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I am not saying this as a slight, but as an observation - I do not think an accurate impression can be made from watching 4e. I believe you need to really play it to get a solid feel for it.I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
So, first we have to read the books to comment. Then we have to see the game in action. Now we have to play it. At what point are we allowed to post a smegging opinion on this game? When we've run a campaign for ten years with the verdammt thing??
Also, am I heretical in thinking that the amount of magical items int he game is overkill?
I've received complaints that there's not enough magic items in the game. At least not having a flexible creation process.
And there's only four potions, and like 10 wondrous items. It just seems like more 'cause the last DMG had items listed in bold text, followed by a colon and explanation.
So, first we have to read the books to comment. Then we have to see the game in action. Now we have to play it. At what point are we allowed to post a smegging opinion on this game? When we've run a campaign for ten years with the verdammt thing??I am not saying this as a slight, but as an observation - I do not think an accurate impression can be made from watching 4e. I believe you need to really play it to get a solid feel for it.I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
No, when you play a game to have fun, emphasis on the having fun. DM should too, cynical DMs kill games no matter what the system.
And in all fairness the 4e naysayers are doing the same thing with the second printing of 4e. First it's "we'll see the sales", then it's "well that's just the distributors buying all the copies 'cause they think it'll sell out quickly", then after it was revealed the core set was one of the top selling items on Amazon.com it's "well people just want to know what the game is like, but then they'll be disappointed." At what point are we allowed to celebrate the high sales of this game? When the sales figures for the very last 4e splat book comes out??
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And in all fairness the 4e naysayers are doing the same thing with the second printing of 4e. First it's "we'll see the sales", then it's "well that's just the distributors buying all the copies 'cause they think it'll sell out quickly", then after it was revealed the core set was one of the top selling items on Amazon.com it's "well people just want to know what the game is like, but then they'll be disappointed." At what point are we allowed to celebrate the high sales of this game? When the sales figures for the very last 4e splat book comes out??So, first we have to read the books to comment. Then we have to see the game in action. Now we have to play it. At what point are we allowed to post a smegging opinion on this game? When we've run a campaign for ten years with the verdammt thing??I am not saying this as a slight, but as an observation - I do not think an accurate impression can be made from watching 4e. I believe you need to really play it to get a solid feel for it.I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
Yes. That sounds about right to me. About the time the 5e people are trumpeting how great their new game is and how the old grognards of 4E should shut up and enjoy. ;-)
Also, am I heretical in thinking that the amount of magical items int he game is overkill?I've received complaints that there's not enough magic items in the game. At least not having a flexible creation process.
And there's only four potions, and like 10 wondrous items. It just seems like more 'cause the last DMG had items listed in bold text, followed by a colon and explanation.
However, I counted over 144 pieces of magic armor, and another 100 magical weapons, not to mention over 30 magic holy symbols.
Yes. That sounds about right to me. About the time the 5e people are trumpeting how great their new game is and how the old grognards of 4E should shut up and enjoy. ;-)And in all fairness the 4e naysayers are doing the same thing with the second printing of 4e. First it's "we'll see the sales", then it's "well that's just the distributors buying all the copies 'cause they think it'll sell out quickly", then after it was revealed the core set was one of the top selling items on Amazon.com it's "well people just want to know what the game is like, but then they'll be disappointed." At what point are we allowed to celebrate the high sales of this game? When the sales figures for the very last 4e splat book comes out??So, first we have to read the books to comment. Then we have to see the game in action. Now we have to play it. At what point are we allowed to post a smegging opinion on this game? When we've run a campaign for ten years with the verdammt thing??I am not saying this as a slight, but as an observation - I do not think an accurate impression can be made from watching 4e. I believe you need to really play it to get a solid feel for it.I went to the rgp store today and i saw lot pof people trying the game,
i dindt get the chance to try (3 reason no time,no spot open for a game and my dauther was with me) and the first think that came to my mind is how mush this looked like they where playing warhammer quest,any one esle get that feeling.As for the book i check one (phb) out quickly and i can say only 3 thing about it: 1 the art is great 2alot of the content didnt make much sense to me(yes i know i need to get a better look at it) and 3
a hate the tiefling illustration.
The pre-order sales of 5e will suck, but that won't stop the fans from complaining. First they'll be all like "it doesn't come out for a few months, but it'll go up in a week or two," then they'll say "there hasn't been enough advertising for it, but the advertising will start soon," then a mere week before the release date they'll be all like "well the holiday season ended two months ago, nobody wants to spend money right now." At what point could we proclaim that 5e tanked? When WOTC goes under due to lack of profit??
However, I counted over 144 pieces of magic armor, and another 100 magical weapons, not to mention over 30 magic holy symbols.Also, am I heretical in thinking that the amount of magical items int he game is overkill?I've received complaints that there's not enough magic items in the game. At least not having a flexible creation process.
And there's only four potions, and like 10 wondrous items. It just seems like more 'cause the last DMG had items listed in bold text, followed by a colon and explanation.
Dude, first off the tables show ever iteration of every kind of magic armor, i.e. both +1 and +2 Dwarven Armor are on that table 'cause they cost different, but they do the exact same thing aside from their magical enhancement to AC. Aside from that there's only so many kinds of magical item. I mean count how many wondrous items are in the 3.5 DMG. Not to mention magical weapons and armor in 3.5 were much more modular in design, meaning there were countless different weapons you could make.
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So, first we have to read the books to comment. Then we have to see the game in action. Now we have to play it. At what point are we allowed to post a smegging opinion on this game? When we've run a campaign for ten years with the verdammt thing??
You can read the previews and not like the direction the game is taking. That says nothing about how it actually plays.
You can read it and not like the rules. That says nothing about how it plays.
If you want to form an opinion about how the game actually plays, then you need to actually play it.