AoW + Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk: Obelisks

[Crodocile]

I'm running AoW right now and combining it with EthRoG. We're at the start of Hall of Harsh Reflections and halfway through the Tower of War chapter of EthRoG. I noticed an overlap in the two campaigns (well, another one), in the chapter on the Tower of Magic in EthRoG; at the bottom of the tower is a black obelisk charged with magical energy that Zagyg used to ascend to godhood. Of course Kyuss also used a black obelisk charged with magical energy to ascend to godhood. So that could mean one of three things-

1. They're one and the same object. As written, they're not, because Kyuss' has been in the Spire of Long Shadows until recently. I could change it in my campaign so that it is the same, but then I'd have to rewrite some stuff later on. I kinda like this idea as it would combine the two storylines (the only major connection that I have planned so far is Raknian, and Tirra sort of). Either the obelisk would be introduced earlier while the PC's are still in the Free City, or the PC's would have to come back to Castle Greyhawk later. Since the party will have more xp than normal for AoW because they will have done EthRoG, I could introduce the obelisk (missing or being stolen) just after Champion's Belt and EthRoG are almost done, and then skip a all or most of Spire of Long Shadows. Maybe Edgar Tolstoff (from Elder Evils) could be the one to take it as I've introduced him too, and haven't figured out when he'll come back yet. Of course, SoLS would still work; it would just mean that Zagyg took the obelisk, not Dragotha, and much earlier.

2. There are multiple black obelisks around the world. The benefit of this conclusion is that after AoW is over; there's the potential storyline of the now epic level characters finding one, gaining control of it, figuring out how it works, and potentially ascending to godhood themselves. Which could be a really cool and truly epic conclusion to the campaign. With this storyline, I'd want the PC's to encounter Zagyg's obelisk at some point so there's the throughline in the campaign, because it's cool.

3. They are completely different and coincidental. This conclusion is neither cool nor fun, so I'm against it.

Anybody have any ideas or suggestions? Sorry if this double-posts, but it doesn't look like it worked the first time.

[James Jacobs]

#2 is kinda the way I see things. That said, it WAS a coincidence that there are two black obelisks that do similar things. But a cool one; I like the idea that there's something more to it.

[Crodocile]

I thought they might be a coincidence in the writing of the adventures, but now that they're both there in the world it'd be fun to do something to tie them together.

[The Snorting Tip-sniffer]

They're not the only two black obelisks on Oerth. They pop up all over the place, usually in relation to a certain god of Entropy....