Our current band of PCs has no cleric.
The solution to this dilema was to save our gold and get a Wand of Cure Light Wounds.
So the question is. Can a 2nd Level Ranger and a 2nd Level Bard use it?
Ranger - Cure Light Wounds is on his spell list but he is only 2nd level and incapable of casting spells. Can he still use the wand?
Bard - Cure Light Wounds is on her spell list but she casts arcane magic not divine. Does the type of magic matter with wands?
Thanks for the help in advance. :)
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SRD to the rescue!
Activation: Wands use the spell trigger activation method, so casting a spell from a wand is usually a standard action that doesn’t provoke attacks of opportunity. (If the spell being cast, however, has a longer casting time than 1 action, it takes that long to cast the spell from a wand.) To activate a wand, a character must hold it in hand (or whatever passes for a hand, for nonhumanoid creatures) and point it in the general direction of the target or area. A wand may be used while grappling or while swallowed whole.
Spell Trigger: Spell trigger activation is similar to spell completion, but it’s even simpler. No gestures or spell finishing is needed, just a special knowledge of spellcasting that an appropriate character would know, and a single word that must be spoken. Anyone with a spell on his or her spell list knows how to use a spell trigger item that stores that spell. (This is the case even for a character who can’t actually cast spells, such as a 3rd-level paladin.) The user must still determine what spell is stored in the item before she can activate it. Activating a spell trigger item is a standard action and does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
(Emphasis mine.)
It specifically notes, also, that the spell only needs to be in the character's spell list. It does not matter if the character casts that spell as an arcane or divine spell. If it's on the class spell list, he or she can use it just fine.
Example:
Cure Light Wounds
Conjuration (Healing)
Level: Brd 1, Clr 1, Drd 1, Healing 1, Pal 1, Rgr 2
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature touched
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Will half (harmless); see text
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless); see text
Bolded are the classes that could use this spell in wand form.
Problem solved. :)
Thanks :)
So the ranger can put those 50 charges to use right away. Great!
As far as the bard...Does it matter if its an arcane wand or a divine wand? Im still unsure of that part but that seems really picky. I think we will just house-rule it that if the ranger uses the wand it casts the divine version of CLW and if the bard uses it then it would be the arcane version.
I apreciate it.
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As far as the bard...Does it matter if its an arcane wand or a divine wand? Im still unsure of that part but that seems really picky. I think we will just house-rule it that if the ranger uses the wand it casts the divine version of CLW and if the bard uses it then it would be the arcane version.
Out of curiosity, when would it ever matter? They are identical in function. Caster level is determined by the wand's creator (not the user). If, for whatever reason, it DID matter, I would probably rule that the wand's creator determined the spell type. If a cleric or druid made it, it's divine. If a bard made it, it's arcane. Bards don't often craft items, though, but it's not impossible.
Out of curiosity, when would it ever matter? They are identical in function. Caster level is determined by the wand's creator (not the user).
Good point. I don't know when it would ever matter.
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Out of curiosity, when would it ever matter? They are identical in function. Caster level is determined by the wand's creator (not the user).Good point. I don't know when it would ever matter.
Okay, I thought about it a little, and I did think of one case in which it might actually matter (prepare for esotericness):
If you were seeking to employ the cure wand offensively against an undead Ur-Priest. Ur-Priests specifically get divine spell resistance and, if the wand were arcane, it would bypass this SR. Still though, what are the odds?
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In theory... the source of magic re: Divine vs. Arcane only matters for things like scrolls. But I ignore that rule even then; it's needless complication. If the spell's on your list, you can cast that spell no matter if your a sorcerer and the spell was written by a druid. That's how I'd rule things.
Would any class putting skills in 'Use Magical device' allow for a chance to use this?
Yes. See SRD, the source of virtually all human and demi-human knowledge:
You are skilled at activating magic items, even if you are not otherwise trained in their use.
Check
You can use this skill to read a spell or to activate a magic item. Use Magic Device lets you use a magic item as if you had the spell ability or class features of another class, as if you were a different race, or as if you were of a different alignment.
You make a Use Magic Device check each time you activate a device such as a wand. If you are using the check to emulate an alignment or some other quality in an ongoing manner, you need to make the relevant Use Magic Device check once per hour.