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I was thinking of what is the best way to come up with good stories and ideas and then it hit me local stories and folklore. So I will start it up with the most famous from my part of the world. The story of

The Dun-Garven Hooper:

Here are the known facts of the story of the Dun-garven Hooper.
1)The story starts in 1827 in what is now known as Dun-Garven New Brunswick, Canada. Back at that time the biggest industry was shipbuilding, and as a byproduct of the shipbuilding industry the lumber yards were booming. However because of the lack of workers they started to employ ex-cons and drifters.

2)One young man by the name of Ryan Garven got involved with one of these lumber camps in the area now bearing his name. Ryan's mother had been quite ill and had incurred a lot of medical debts, so Ryan went to work at the camp to take care of her. But because he was such a small guy they had to put him as the cook in the lumber camp.

3)One day a huge storm blew through and the road got washed out and supplies had been delayed. The men at the camp became quite irratable and started yelling at the camp chief about the lack of meat and even threatened to put him in the pot if no meat arrived by the time they returned from their days work. So the chief waited until they left lured poor ryan to the back of the cabin and killed him with his own axe.

That night when the men returned Ryan was in the pot and the chief told the men that a messenger had managed to get through with a message that Ryan's mother had passed away and that he had left to bury her. After supper he took Ryans bones out into the woods and buried them in a shallow grave.

That night the first bloodcurdling screams and moans were heard and none of the men slept. And the camp chief was nearly driven mad. The next day they abandoned the camp.

Some thirty years later another lumberjack was wandering through the woods and found what looked like human bones that some animal had dug up. He examined them and and marked the spot, then headed back to town to hire a priest to bless the bones and give them a proper burial and rest. But when the priest arrived the moans and shrieks started and only increased as he tried to bless them. He finished quickly and left with the yells following him all the way back home.

Too this day in the modern day town of Dun-garven people every now and then can here the death shrieks of young Ryan Garven.

I have personally met people who have claimed to here the Hooper and still swear that it exists but I myself have never heard it even though I have visited Dun-Garven but never heard it myself.


This is a great idea for a thread! Working on my ideas...

Dark Archive

As soon as I sit down and write out the other folk legends I was told as a child I'll post them here.


The Bell Witch.

It's the real The Blair Witch and American Haunting or at least what they were based off of.

It revolves around a family in Adams TN in 1800's. The father died under mysterious terms after seeing this weird animal which caused him to have weird fits. During this time the children complain about voices then finally say they are being beaten and tortured at night with the scream and wounds to show it. Which leads to people trying to exorcise the witch. However, that leads to more violant attacks to all who try and on the children.

I know there is a cave that people still come out of all scratch up when they visit it. I have a friend who is obsessed with this story and has done alot of reseach. I know there are different verisons.

Just think Blair Witch but in TN and usually focuses on hurting children.

Fizz

Liberty's Edge

Though this happened just a few years ago, and is a true story, it's bound to become an urban (rural?) legend in a decade or two.
*NOT FOLKLORE WARNING*

Mark the Murderer

Backstory: Mark Smith is an autistic man of about forty. When he was around twenty, he became enraged that his girlfriend had cheated on him, and stabbed her to death with a letter opener. He was acquitted on grounds of insanity, and dumped in the North Country Psychopath Dumping Ground (Ticonderoga, NY. It's where they take all the released convicts after prison).

Four years ago, another man by the name of Terry Gertsen was in the hospital with Hodgkins' Lymphoma. An upstanding and well-liked member of the town, the town council decided to send him flowers from a local flower shop. However, the florist transposed two numbers in the hospital address, and the flowers were sent to - you guessed it - Mark the Murderer.

All of that year (my senior year in high school), the town was abuzz with the story that the town council had sent a bouquet of flowers to a psychotic killer.


Judging by the geography, it looks like Dun-Garven might be connected with Dungarvan back in Ireland- a lot of Irish turned up there and is funny that the story is connected with the etymology of the word- the old towns original name was Dún Garbháin- Garbhan's Fort, specifically an Iron Age Hill Fort/settlement. Later, these forts used often be mistaken for graves or Fairy Hills.
The period you cite coincides with a lot of anti-Irish feeling, particluarly amongst Loyalist Scots Irish- the extreme edge of which was a revival of the myth of of Irish cannibalism (which dates back to the Romans).

The original town of Dungarvan is in County Waterford- the country around there is replete with tales of murder, ghosts and fairy abduction.

Hope that helps put some flesh on those bloody bones.

Liberty's Edge

Also, this one is a bit of a local phenomenon.

The Sentinel

Ticonderoga, NY is named after Fort Ticonderoga, a French/Indian//Revolutionary war fortress that holds the distinction of never being successfully held. To enter the fort, one must drive towards the west wall along a long "driveway" that passes along the original road into the fort, as well as through an old battlefield.

The sentinel is described as a ghostly or shadowy figure wearing a tricorn hat and carrying an old musket that stands in the middle of the road until one gets within about a hundred yards. The figre then raises a musket to his shoulder and marches about a hundred feet to the north and walks behind an old maple tree, disappearing behind it. The story goes that he was charged to be a lookout, was killed at his post, and hasn't left it since.

I've seen the sentinel, and it was kind of odd, though not at all frightening.

Another wierd thing is that the sentinel almost always appears during the daytime. Only a few sightings have happened at night.


The former insane asylum two blocks from my house (first floor now used for county business) is reported to be haunted. Might have something to do with the seven thousand unmarked graves in the field behind it.

Eloise


Was sad to see this thread die such a quick and ignoble death. Return to us oh cryptozoology thread!

Excerpt from the Detroit News:

The Nain Rogue

Another early settlers’ tale that Marion Kuclo chronicles concerns “The Nain Rouge,” or the Red Dwarf. Although his origin remains unknown, the ugly spiteful monster with piercing eyes and rotten teeth plagued early Detroit settlers bringing or forewarning of misfortune whenever he appeared.

Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac, the founder of Detroit, was haunted by the creature and soon lost his vast fortune and political standing.

On July 30,1763, the Red Dwarf was seen stalking Capt. James Dalyell on the banks of the Detroit River. The following day, the British captain and 58 of his soldiers were ambushed by Chief Pontiac at the Battle of Bloody Run. The small tributary of the Detroit River, which still flows through what is now Elmwood Cemetery, turned red with the blood of the soldiers for days after the battle.

The gnome reappeared to early Detroit settlers just before the entire city of wooden structures burned to the ground in 1805. A blundering Gen William Hull claimed to have seen the “Nain Rouge” in the fog just before his surrender of Detroit to the British without firing a shot in the War of 1812 .

Author Kuclo also reports eyewitness accounts by Detroiters who watched the creature roam the streets of Detroit in the hot summer days before to the 1967 riots.

Dark Archive

Sister Marie of Miramichi,
Sister Marie monteclair was a nun in the early 1800s in the town of miramichi new brunswick and was much beloved by her town. So adored was she that when it came time to hide the town fortune she and 2 of the older ladies were charged with it's protection, they quickly took it out into the woods and buried it, and a few years after the elder ladies died of old age, leaving sister Marie the only person with the knowledge of it's whereabouts.
Sometime later sister Marie was out for a walk and was waylaid by bandits and threatened with a machete. She refused to give up the treasures location and was decapitated and her head thrown in the river. To this day people see the headless nun of the Miramichi and she often appears with a few gold coins in her hand offering them in exchange for help to find her missing head.

Scarab Sages

mwbeeler wrote:

The former insane asylum two blocks from my house (first floor now used for county business) is reported to be haunted. Might have something to do with the seven thousand unmarked graves in the field behind it.

Eloise

That's less than 4 miles from where I work.


By Dave Juliano (davejuliano@theshadowlands.net)

The Jersey Devil, the supposed mythical creature of the New Jersey Pinelands, has haunted New Jersey and the surrounding areas for the past 260 years. This entity has been seen by over 2,000 witnesses over this period. It has terrorized towns and caused factories and schools to close down, yet many people believe that the Jersey Devil is a legend, a mythical beast, that originated from the folklore of the New Jersey Pine Barrens. Others disagree with this point of view. The following text will show there is evidence to support the existence of an animal or supernatural bring known as the Jersey Devil. The evidence consists of the stories of the Jersey Devil's origin, the sightings of it, and finally, the theories on it.

There are many different versions of the birth of the Jersey Devil. One of the most popular legends says a Mrs. Shrouds of Leeds Point, NJ made a wish that if she ever had another child, she want it to be a devil. Her next child was born misshapen and deformed. She sheltered it in the house, so the curious couldn't see him. On stormy night, the child flapped it's arms, which turned into wings, and escaped out the chimney and was never seen by the family again. A Mrs. Bowen of Leeds point said, "The Jersey Devil was born in the Shrouds house at Leeds Point." 1 Another story that also placed the birth at Leeds Point said that a young girl fell in love with a British soldier during the Revolutionary War. The people of Leeds Point cursed her. When she gave birth, she had a devil. Some people believe the birth of the devil was punishment for the mistreatment of a minister by the Leeds folk.

Another story placed the birth in Estelville, NJ. Mrs. Leeds, of Estelville, finding out she was pregnant with her 13th child, shouted,"I hope it's a devil". She got her wish. The child wad born with horns, a tail, wings, and a horse-like head. The creature revisited Mrs. Leeds everyday. She stood at her door and told it to leave. After awhile, the creature got the hint and never returned.

Burlington, NJ,this where I live also claims to be the birthplace of the Jersey Devil. In 1735, Mother Leeds was in labor on a stormy night. Gathered around her were her friends. Mother Leeds was supposedly a witch and the child's father was the devil himself. The child was born normal, but then changed form. It changed from a normal baby to a creature with hooves, a horses head, bat wings and a forked tail. It beat everyone present and flew up the chimney. It circled the villages and headed toward the pines. In 1740 a clergy exercised the devil for 100 years and it wasn't seen again until 1890.

There are many other versions of the legend. The legends say it was the 6th, 8th, 10th, 12th, or 13th child, It was born normal or deformed, and the mother confined it to the cellar or the attic. Although there are many discrepancies in all of these stories, there are 3 pieces of evidence that tie all of the legends of the Jersey Devil's origin together.

The first thing that ties the legends together is the name "Leeds". Whether the mothers name was Leeds or the birth place was Leeds Point, all of the stories include the name Leeds. Alfred Heston, the Atlantic County Historian, believes that the devil could be a Leeds or a Shrouds baby. He discovered that a Daniel Leeds opened land in Great Egg Harbor, NJ, in 1699. His family lived in Leeds Point. He also discovered a Samuel Shrouds, Sr. came to Little Egg Harbor, NJ, in 1735 and lived right across the river from the house of Mother Leeds. The 3rd fact ties in the Burlington story with the others stories. Professor Fred MacFadden of Coppin State College, Baltimore, found that a "devil" was mentioned in writings from Burlington as early as 1735. He also indicated that the word Burlington was used to was the word used to names the area from the city of Burlington to the Atlantic Ocean. This means that the name that is now used for the birthplace such as Leeds point or Estelville, could be the same place referred to in the Burlington Legend.

The origins provide some validity to the existence of the Jersey Devil, but the sightings are the most substantial pieces of evidence. The sightings have been divided up into 3 time periods, pre 1909, January 16-23, 1909, and post 1909.

From the pre 1909 era, few documented records of sightings still exist. The ones that do confirm the existence of the devil.

In the early 19th century, Commodore Stephen Decatur, a naval hero, was testing cannon balls on the firing range when he saw a strange creature flying across the sky. He fired and hit the creature but it kept right on flying across the field. Joseph Bonaparte, former king of Spain and brother of Napoleon, saw the Jersey Devil in Bordentown, NJ, between 1816 and 1839 while he was hunting. In 1840-41 many sheep and chickens were killed by a creature with a piercing scream and strange tracks. In 1859-94, the Jersey Devil was seen and numerous times and reportedly carried off anything that moved in Haddonfield, Bridgeton, Smithville, Long Branch, Brigantine, and Leeds Point. W.F. Mayer of New York noticed while visiting the Pine Barrens, most of the locals would not venture out after dark. The devil was sighted by George Saarosy, A prominent business man, at the NJ/NY border. This was the last reported sighting before the turn of the century.

In 1903, Charles Skinner, author of American Myths and Legends, claimed that the legend of the devil had run it's course and that in the new century, NJ would hear no more of the devil. New Jersey rested easy with that thought for 6 years, until the week of January 16-23. 1909. During this week, the devil would leave his tracks all over South Jersey and Philadelphia. He was seen by over 1,000 people. This was his largest appearance ever.

It all started early Sunday morning, January 16, 1909. Thack Cozzens of Woodbury, NJ, saw a flying creature with glowing eyes flying down the street. In Bristol, PA, John Mcowen heard and saw the strange creature on the banks of the canal. Patrol James Sackville fired at the creature as it flew away screaming. E.W. Minister, Postmaster of Bristol, PA, also saw a bird-like creature with a horses head that had a piercing scream. When daylight came, the residents of Bristol found hoof prints in the snow. Two local trappers said they had never seen tracks like those before.

On Monday, the Lowdens of Burlington, NJ, found hoof prints in their yard and around their trash, which was half eaten. Almost every yard in Burlington had these strange hoof prints in them. The prints went up trees, went from roof to roof, disappeared in the middle of the road, and stopped in the middle of open fields. The same tracks were also found in Columbus, Hedding, Kinhora and Rancocas. A hunt was organized to follow the tracks but the dogs wouldn't follow the trail.

On the 19th the Jersey Devil made his longest appearance of the week. At 2:30 am, Mr & Mrs. Nelson Evans of Gloucester were awakened by a strange noise. They watched the devil from their window for 10 minutes. Mr. Evans described the creature they saw:

It was about three feet and half high, with a head like a collie dog and
a face like a horse. It had a long neck, wings about two feet long, and
its back legs were like those of a crane, and it had horse's hooves.
It walked on its back legs and held up two short front legs with paws
on them. It didn't use the front legs at all while we were watching.
My wife and I were scared, I tell you, but I managed to open the
window and say, 'Shoo', and it turned around barked at me, and flew away.2
Tuesday afternoon 2 professional hunters tracked the devil for 20 miles in Gloucester. The trail jumped 5 foot fences and went under 8 inch spaces. The hoof prints were found in more parts of South Jersey. A group of observers in Camden, NJ, saw the devil. It barked at them and then took off into the air.

The next day, a Burlington police officer and the Reverend John Pursell of Pemberton saw the Jersey Devil. Rev. Pursell said, "Never saw anything like it before".3 Posses in Haddonfield found tracks that ended abruptly. In Collingswood, NJ, a posse watched the devil fly off toward Moorestown. Near Moorestown, John Smith of Maple Shade saw the devil at the Mount Carmel Cemetery. George Snyder saw the devil right after Mr. Smith and their descriptions were identical. In Riverside, NJ, hoof prints were found on roof tops and also around a dead puppy.

On Thursday, the Jersey Devil was seen by the Black Hawk Social Club. He was also seen by a trolley full of people in Clementon as it circled above them. The witnesses descriptions matched others from the days before. In Trenton, Councilman E.P. Weeden heard the flapping of wings and then found hoof prints outside his door. The prints were also found at the arsenal in Trenton. As the day wore on the Trolleys in Trenton and New Brunswick had armed drivers to ward off attacks. The people in Pitman filled churches. Chickens had been missing all week throughout the Delaware Valley, but when the farmers checked their yards that day, they found their chickens dead, with no marks on them. The West Collingswood Fire Department fired their hose at the devil. The devil retreated at first, but then charged and flew away at the last second.

Later that night, Mrs. Sorbinski of Camden heard a commotion in her yard. She opened the door to see the Jersey Devil standing there with her dog in it's grip. She hit the devil with a broom until it let go of her dog and flew away. She started screaming until her neighbors came over. Two police officers arrived at her house where over 100 people had gathered. The crowd heard a scream coming from Kaigan Hill. The mob ran toward the creature on the hill. The Policed shot at it and the devil flew off into the night. The streets of Camden were empty after this.

On Friday, Camden police officer Louis Strehr saw the Jersey Devil saw the devil drinking from a horses trough. The school in Mt Ephraim was closed because no students came in. Mills and factories in Gloucester and Hainesport had to close because none of the employees came to work. Many New Jersey residents wouldn't leave their houses, even in daylight. Officer Merchant of Blackwood drew a sketch of the creature he saw. His sketch coincided with the descriptions from earlier in the week. Jacob Henderson saw the devil in Salem and described it as having "wings and a tail"4. The devil was only seen once more in 1909 in February.

Since 1909, the Jersey Devil has continued to be sighted by people all over New Jersey. The number of sightings that have been reported to the authorities has dwindled over the years. This could be attributed to the fact that people don't want to be branded as crazy. Even though the number of reported sightings has dropped, there's still a considerable amount of sightings in the post 1909 era.

IN 1927, a cab driver on his way to Salem got a flat tire. He stopped to fix the tire. As he was doing this, creature that stood upright and was covered with hair, landed on the roof of his cab. The creature shook his car violently. He fled the scene, leaving the tire and jack behind. Phillip Smith, who was known as a sober and honest man, saw the devil walking down the street in 1953. The characteristic screams of the Jersey Devil were heard in the woods near Woodstown, NJ, in 1936.

Around 1961, 2 couples were parked in a car in the Pine Barrens. They heard a loud screeching noise outside. Suddenly the roof of the car was smashed in. They fled the scene, but returned later. Again they heard the loud screech. They saw a creature flying along the trees, taking out huge chinks of bark as it went along.

There have been other sightings since 1909, such as the Invasion of Gibbsboro in 1951. The people there saw the devil over a 2 day period. In 1966, a farm was raided and 31 ducks, 3 geese, 4 cats, and 2 dogs were killed. One of the dogs was a large german Shepard which had it's throat ripped out. In 1981, a young couple spotted the devil at Atsion Lake in Atlantic County.

In 1987, in Vineland an aggressive german Shepard was found torn apart and the body gnawed upon. the body was located 25 feet from the chain which had been hooked to him. Around the body were strange tracks that no one could identify.

The sightings and prints are the most substantial evidence that exists. Many of the theories on the Jersey Devil are based upon that evidence. Some theories can be proven invalid, while others seem to provide support for the Jersey Devil's existence.

One theory is that the Jersey Devil is a bird. Mrs. Cassidy of Clayton thought it was an invasion of scrowfoot ducks. The scrowfoot duck is much too small to be mistaken for the devil. Others believe the devil is really a sand hill crane. The crane used to live in South Jersey until it was pushed out by man. The sand hill crane weighs about 12 lbs., is 4 foot high, and a wingspan of 80 inches. It avoids man but if confronted it will fight. It has a loud scream whooping voice that can be heard at a distance. This could account for the screams heard by witnesses. The crane also eats potatoes and corn. This could account for the raids on crops. This theory doesn't explain , however, the killing of live stock. It also doesn't explain why people described the devil as having a horses head, bat wings and tail, all of which the crane doesn't have.

Professor Bralhopf said that" the tracks were made by some prehistoric animal form the Jurassic period"5. He believes the creature survived underground in a cavern. An expert from the Smithsonian Institute had a theory about ancient creatures surviving underground. He said the Jersey Devil was a Pterodactyl. The Academy of Natural Sciences could find no record of any creature, living or extinct, that resembles the Jersey Devil.

Jack E. Boucher, author of Absagami Yesteryear, has a theory in which he believes the devil was a deformed child. He thinks Mrs. Leeds had a disfigured child and kept it locked away in the house. She grew sick and couldn't feed the child anymore. It escaped out of hunger and raided local farms for food. This doesn't take into account the incredible life span of the devil. The child would have been 174 years old in 1909. It also doesn't account for the sightings of the devil flying.

Only a small amount of the sightings and footprints could be hoaxes. The Jersey Devil has been seen by reliable people such as police, government officials, postmasters, businessman, and other people whose "integrity is beyond question."6 As for the hoof prints, even if some were hoaxes, There is still no way to explain most of the tracks, especially the ones on roof tops and tracks that ended abruptly as if the creature took wing.

The last theory is the most controversial one. Many people believe that the Jersey Devil could be the very essence of evil, embodied. It is said that the devil is an "uncanny harbinger of war"7. and appears before any great conflict. The jersey devil was sighted before the start of the Civil War. It was also seen right before the Spanish American War and WW I. In 1939, before the start of WW II, Mount Holly citizens were awakened by the noise of hooves on their roof tops. The Devil was seen on December 7, 1941, right before Pearl Harbor was bombed. He was also seen right before the vietnam War.

The Jersey Devil's habit of being a forerunner to wars could be because of his possible demonic origins. In 1730, Ben Franklin reported a story about a witchcraft trial near Mt Holly, NJ. One of the origin legends say that Mother Leeds was a witch. The devil's birth could have been a result of a witches curse.

Other facts support the supernatural theory are the reports of the death of the devil. When Commodore Decatur fired a cannon ball at the devil, it went through him and he was unaffected.

In 1909, a track walker on the electric railroad saw the devil fly into the wires above the tracks. There was a violent explosion which melted the track 20 feet in both directions. No body was found and the devil was seen later in perfect health. In 1957, the Department of Conservation found a strange corpse in a burned out area of the pines. It was a partial skeleton, feathers, and hind legs of an unidentifiable creature. The devil was thought to be dead, but reappeared when the people of New Jersey thought that this time his death was real. Each time he is reported dead, he returns. Sometimes this year. The Jersey Devil will be 260 years old. It seems the devil is immortal, which a supernatural being would be. Another thing that supports this theory is the incredible distances the devil could fly in a short period of time. No animal could travel as fast as the devil did in 1909 when he was sighted in South Jersey, Philadelphia, and New York through out the week.

None of these theories can give a definitive answer to what the Jersey Devil was or is, but the sightings prove there is something out there. Whether the Jersey devil is a bird or a demon, is still left ot speculation. The people of New Jersey have definitely seen something out there lurking in the Pine Barrens.

1988;Tobus Neth and his friends are partying in the pine barrens with the Jersey Devil!He drank 2 1/2 cases of Moosehead beer, ate 4lbs of hotdogs, and consumed and entire sheet of LSD, he really liked Iron Maiden, and he made off with my Ambervision sun glasses and Piece of mind t-shirt!and half ounce!..of oregano


That was a very long post.


If the Jersey Devil were truly the "essence of evil" it would live in Trenton and vote for Corzine's plans to beggar us with his borrowing.


Ungoded wrote:
That's less than 4 miles from where I work.

Rock on, no way!?! Funny to think of the people you might have bumped into in the store and never known.

The Exchange

Posting so I can find this thread tomorrow more easily and read it completely.

Liberty's Edge

The uncle of a guy I know saw Sasquatch about twenty miles away from my house. What Sasquatch was doing in Whitehall, New York, I don't know, but ol' Danny sticks to his story. He was even on that "Monster Quest" show on the History Channel.

Dark Archive

Ok guys I found a few somewhat disturbing videos to go along with this. The videos aren't gory or violent but they do go along as kinda creepy
Part 1
part 2
ghosts
more ghosts
even more incorporeals
bloody mary
There you go enjoy.

Dark Archive

So apparently they found Bigfoot.
Link

Scarab Sages

When I was a kid (probably 7th or 8th grade), I swear I read a book in my school library about bigfoot - attacking a lumberjack camp. When a group of men left the camp to hunt the monster, they returned to find those left behind dead - torn apart. For the life of me, I can't remember the book, nor can I locate the story on the internet. I'll keep checking though.

The Exchange

The Two legged Horses

Some people (1080's) in the Northern Territory (Australia) were driving along the highway when they saw a Horse and its Foal in a large pool of water by the side of the Road (only their heads were above the water) Then the Mare leaps up out of the deep Water pool Followed by the Foal - it had Two Legs (the front two positioned directly under the Head with no rear end behind it) as did its Foal. They leapt out onto the road and ran at the moving vehicle, up the Bonnet, over the top and down the road behind the car).

The Car Screeches to a hault and the passengers get out to see where the horses have gone looking back down the road - the Horses have vanished.

The Pighead Man

My little brother once told me of something the other Kids were talking about. Apparently living in the Jungle at the bottom of the Hill (just down from our home) was a man with a Pig head for a head.

The Boy trapped in the Stormdrain

This was a boy reaching up out of a Roadcurb drain hole. Apparently he was cut off from the Storm drain exit just down the road because the Drain branch he was in vanished after he passed through it.


A little something I remember from being raised in Hawaii:

The Hukai-po, or Night Marchers

Night Marchers are ghostly apparitions of a band of beings who move with purpose to the beat of primitive pounding drums. Some say they are armed spirit warriors en route to or from battle, toting archaic weaponry and clothed in decorated helmets and cloaks. Other accounts tell of high-ranking alii (ruler) spirits being guided to places of high importance or to welcome new warriors to join in battle. Perhaps these restless souls are looking to reclaim rightful territory, replay a battle gone awry, or avenge their own deaths. Some say the Night Marchers are searching methodically for an entrance into the next world.

Night Marchers are said to roam through very specific locations on the islands, between seashore and mountains and are often recognized by their raised torches and repeated olis, or chants. Although there have been a few scattered reports of daytime marches, these apparitions appear to be most active at night and are said to march on certain nights designated by the moon. And although the Night Marchers allegedly float a few inches off the ground, some local accounts tell of seeing mysterious footprints in their path after they’ve passed.

What to do when happening upon a night march in progress? The ghostly procession must never be interrupted. Legend has it that resting your eyes upon the Night Marchers could signal a grim fate for the perpetrator, a friend or relative, so witnesses are urged to crouch low to the ground, “play dead” and avert the eyes. Any sound or movement could invite a Night Marcher’s deadly glance. These Night Marchers are set diligently upon their destination and are not considered spirits that will deviate from their path to haunt humans nearby.

Supposedly, though I've never met anyone who did so, there are people whose houses rest on the path of the night marchers and take vacations on the days they are said to march, staying with relatives or in hotels rather than risk encountering them.

The Exchange

The Daly Street Bridge
Seeing as my previous Posting of this got deleted!:(

It has unusual Spacetime properties. One Individual actually threw himself from the bridge in an attempt to "get into the past" so it has "a history of weirdness".

As A child I was crossing the Daly Street Bridge (DARWIN) (in the 1980s) with my Family when I noticed a Steam train (the old kind with smoke stack) comming up from the Wharf. Such a Train ran that route back in the 1920s? I pointed the train out to my Parents and heard the voice of my grandmother say "Dont be silly Francis! There is no train there!" (the name of my Father - yet she wasnt there in the 1980s rather the 1950s) and then someone who looked older (I realize he was my Brother in the 2000s.

So for a Moment the Borders between past, Present, and future were nonexistant. Existing simultaneously in at least in four different times as people from my family line.

SO thank you all for stiring a strange memmory from the repressed section of my mind...

PS: Its all stringtheory baby!

Liberty's Edge

I love this thread--definitely one for the RSS subscription.

Dark Archive

So apparently bigfoots are a genetic cross between humans, gorillasa. and opossums.

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