Pathfinder CS vs. 4th edition


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In the ideal universe, 4e will fail utterly, and Wizards will sell the D&D IP to Paizo, where it belongs.


Dishliquid wrote:
In the ideal universe, 4e will fail utterly, and Wizards will sell the D&D IP to Paizo, where it belongs.

I'm not sure they could afford it. The minis part and licenses and all that do add up.

Would be cool, though, to have several good d20 companies to take over as a joint venture or something. Won't happen, of course, but would be nice.

Still, I could actually see 4e falling onto its beak. It sounds more and more like WoW or something like that. The thing is: The more 4e will be like WoW, the more direct the competition will be. And 4e will lose against WoW. They won't be able to take many players away from WoW, but if people think that D&D has become too much like WoW, anyway, I'm sure that more than a few will abandon D&D and start WoW. Might as well go with the game that has more players and handles the rules better, so you can concentrate on the playing itself.


KaeYoss wrote:
Dishliquid wrote:
In the ideal universe, 4e will fail utterly, and Wizards will sell the D&D IP to Paizo, where it belongs.

I'm not sure they could afford it. The minis part and licenses and all that do add up.

Would be cool, though, to have several good d20 companies to take over as a joint venture or something. Won't happen, of course, but would be nice.

Still, I could actually see 4e falling onto its beak. It sounds more and more like WoW or something like that. The thing is: The more 4e will be like WoW, the more direct the competition will be. And 4e will lose against WoW. They won't be able to take many players away from WoW, but if people think that D&D has become too much like WoW, anyway, I'm sure that more than a few will abandon D&D and start WoW. Might as well go with the game that has more players and handles the rules better, so you can concentrate on the playing itself.

There is literally nothing that we've seen in 4e that is like WoW that WoW didn't borrow from D&D in the first place.


Tanus wrote:
There is literally nothing that we've seen in 4e that is like WoW that WoW didn't borrow from D&D in the first place.

Monthly payment for subscriptions to play online.

I WIN!

Liberty's Edge

I don't want Paizo getting the D&D IP, then they might go back to making Greyhawk stuff and I'm all hardcore into Golarion now. I swore when Eberron came out and I missed the boat that the next campaign setting I saw coming I'd dive right into the deep end.

Luck was on my side as the Pathfinder stuff is freaking awesome and so much better than Eberron or Ptolus or anything else.

My best case scenario? I like some of the stuff I've seen with 4e crunch (I like the fighters, but I hate the wizards. I love the losing level adjustment in favor of racial abilities) but I have sooo much 3.5 stuff I think I'd rather see Paizo stick with 3.5 and maybe make their own 3.75 that fixes a few of the issues with 3.5 without completely nullifying all of my splat books.


Coridan wrote:
I swore when Eberron came out and I missed the boat that the next campaign setting I saw coming I'd dive right into the deep end.

Not unlike the Titanic, that was a good boat to miss....


Agamon the Dark wrote:
Coridan wrote:
I swore when Eberron came out and I missed the boat that the next campaign setting I saw coming I'd dive right into the deep end.
Not unlike the Titanic, that was a good boat to miss....

The iceberg didn't seem to agree.

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KaeYoss wrote:
The iceberg didn't seem to agree.

Oh. Dude.

Too soon.

Too soon.


Mike McArtor wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
The iceberg didn't seem to agree.

Oh. Dude.

Too soon.

Too soon.

At first, I thought so, too, but then I remembered that Hollywood made a -ing romance out of that tragedy, and thought "I couldn't be worse than that even if I tried"

Liberty's Edge

KaeYoss wrote:


At first, I thought so, too, but then I remembered that Hollywood made a -ing romance out of that tragedy, and thought "I couldn't be worse than that even if I tried"

You're right, they did make a movie about it. In 1958 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051994/

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