Elves Immune to Paralysis?


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Scarab Sages

So, I was reading the Rules Compendium the other day, and the piece by David Noonan (page 13) mentions elves being immune to paralysis. Is this rule printed somewhere? Because I can't seem to find it.

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Perhaps, they mean paralysis caused by a ghoul's touch? If so, then Monster Manual would be the answer to your question.


IIRC, Elves are specifically immune to ghoul's paralysis, including ghoul touch, but not any other form of paralysis as a general rule.


Turin the Mad wrote:
IIRC, Elves are specifically immune to ghoul's paralysis, including ghoul touch, but not any other form of paralysis as a general rule.

I believe a leftover from previous editions.

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ArchLich wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
IIRC, Elves are specifically immune to ghoul's paralysis, including ghoul touch, but not any other form of paralysis as a general rule.
I believe a leftover from previous editions.

Where did that come from, anyways?

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Funny that I was considering this the other day. It is certainly a leftover from 1st Edition, when there were much more limited monsters and spells -amd almost every party was made up of a good mix of races (other than level limits, which were almost universally ignnored, there wasn't much initiative to play a human). By making elves immune to paralysis and sleep, it seemed a safeguard to having your entire low-level party wiped out by a single ghoul with good attack rolls or an antagonist mage and bad saving throws -you could always be assured with those two popular tactics (the ol' standby sleep spell and, well, ghouls) that you'd always have one player standing to save the day...

...because wouldn't it suck if the whole party just fell asleep? WHILE being attacked by ghouls?

That's my theory, anyway!

Fleece

Scarab Sages

Am I the only one that did a double-take on the title? I thought that Elvis was immune to paralysis.

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Fleece66 wrote:
...it seemed a safeguard to having your entire low-level party wiped out by a single ghoul with good attack rolls or an antagonist mage and bad saving throws...

I think you'll find sleep didn't even allow a save; making it even more important someone was immune!

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Snorter wrote:
Fleece66 wrote:
...it seemed a safeguard to having your entire low-level party wiped out by a single ghoul with good attack rolls or an antagonist mage and bad saving throws...
I think you'll find sleep didn't even allow a save; making it even more important someone was immune!

Oh WOW -that's right. Man...those were the days. Don't worry about that guard, boys -I'm on it!


IIRC, elves were immune to ghoul's paralysis in the days of the Red Box. Possibly the sleep spell, too. I've seen that typo before. I think there was also a comment in their origins that said that Corellon was unaffected by paralysis but the elves only got this watered-down version. That would be sometime in 2nd ed. I think.

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Elves are still immune to ghoul paralysis in 3rd edition. HUZZAH! Take THAT, dwarves!


Didn't mean to imply that elves weren't immune in the current edition to ghoul paralysis-only to all paralysis. Thanks for the intervention anyway, Mr. Jacobs!

Scarab Sages

Thanks for the info, everyone. I never noticed the part in the ghoul entry that mentions elves being immune to the paralysis.

This gives me yet another reason to love playing elves. :)


Moff Rimmer wrote:
Am I the only one that did a double-take on the title? I thought that Elvis was immune to paralysis.

He sure was. No one could stop that pelvic thrust!

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James Jacobs wrote:
Elves are still immune to ghoul paralysis in 3rd edition. HUZZAH! Take THAT, dwarves!

Aye, but they are still skinny, beardless, leaf eatin', tree huggin',girly-girl sissies.

D0rf 4evah!


It is only in 3.5 that elves have lost the immunity to ghoul paralysis. It is one of the reasons that they made the ghast. To have a ghoul that can betchslap the elf in the party.

ELVES

+2 Dexterity, –2 Constitution.

Medium: As Medium creatures, elves have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.

Elf base land speed is 30 feet.

Immunity to magic sleep effects, and a +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells or effects.

Low-Light Vision: An elf can see twice as far as a human in starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor illumination. She retains the ability to distinguish color and detail under these conditions.

Weapon Proficiency: Elves receive the Martial Weapon Proficiency feats for the longsword, rapier, longbow (including composite longbow), and shortbow (including composite shortbow) as bonus feats.

+2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks. An elf who merely passes within 5 feet of a secret or concealed door is entitled to a Search check to notice it as if she were actively looking for it.

Automatic Languages: Common and Elven. Bonus Languages: Draconic, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, and Sylvan.

Favored Class: Wizard. A multiclass elf’s wizard class does not count when determining whether she takes an experience point penalty for multiclassing.

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Taliesin Hoyle wrote:
It is only in 3.5 that elves have lost the immunity to ghoul paralysis.

As was discussed elsewhere in the thread, no they have not lost it. Check the MM under Ghoul and read the paralysis part.


James Jacobs wrote:
Elves are still immune to ghoul paralysis in 3rd edition. HUZZAH! Take THAT, dwarves!

But not ghasts.

Darn, beaten to the punch!

Scarab Sages

The Jade wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Am I the only one that did a double-take on the title? I thought that Elvis was immune to paralysis.
He sure was. No one could stop that pelvic thrust!

He was not immune, however, to Priscillas.


Ungoded wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Am I the only one that did a double-take on the title? I thought that Elvis was immune to paralysis.
He sure was. No one could stop that pelvic thrust!
He was not immune, however, to Priscillas.

She lived with him, underage, with her parent's permission. She swears he never touched her till the day they were married. The only thing that might make that true is the fact that he could probably open his front gate and grab a willing consort to take the edge off. It must have been like a sweater-girl vending machine next to a barrel of free change for that man.

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