Since it's relevant now.. Tiefling, the pronunciation game


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I'm in the Tea - Fling camp.


yeah I've heard people say SHAY man. Like wolverine from the 90's X-men cartoon says it. I'm always like "huh?"

hey, thats the second X-men cartoon refernece in this thread
lol

Liberty's Edge

waltero wrote:
Oh, and Drow is definitely pronounced like "bow," not "sow."

No, you're saying it wrong; 'drow' rhymes with 'row'.


Tiefling. The "tie" rhymes with "tea" "free" and so on.
Drow. Rhymes with cow or prow or how.
Lich. Like the scottish loch, but with a short "i" or the German "Ich" It is a sound that is uncommon in English today. It sounds a bit like one has a chest cold and is drawing phlegm.
Duergar. Like due or dew, then er, rhymes with slur, and gar, rhymes with car.
Aasimar. Say aah! Aa rhymes with lah from lah-di-dah. Si is a short i, which sounds like the si in simple or Farsi and mar sounds long, like bar or car.

Scarab Sages

I've always pronounced Duergar as dur-ger, as in rhymes with hamburger. I know that this is probably wrong, and my friend corrects me every time i say it. I just prefer it that way. I also pronounce:
Drow: as in plow
Aasimar: as in aah-zi-mar
terrasque: as in terr-ask
Tiefling: to rhyme with Thiefling
Lich: to rhyme with Itch
Shaman: as in shaw-min

I've prolly forgot a bunch, but that's just the way i say them...

Grand Lodge

According to the Dragon Compendium Pronunciation Guide:

Drow- both ways as in row and as in out (without the t)
Lich- both ways as in Litch or lik
My favorite one
Otyugh- At-yug really that is what it says!
Shaman- white folks call it shaw-man but native americans call it shay-man :)
Duergar- Dew- ur-gar
Tarrask- Ta-rask as in ask

according to Wikipedia (for whataver authority THAT is worth)
Tiefling- as either tie-fling or tay-fling though I prefer Teef-ling

Aasimar- I prefer ausie-mar like the Austrailians :) with a soft e for the i...

don't ya just freakin love english :)


Not THIS debate again.

TEEF-ling

Lich rhymes with witch. (Webster's tells us that the lichgate of a church--for those of you who live in places where churches have graveyards attached--is pronounced this way, and this word derives from the Middle English "lich" (body, corpse). If you want to go back to Old English, the same word was spelled lic, and probably pronounced something like "leek.")

ta-RASK. (This name is French in origin, so the "ue" at the end is silent and the emphasis is on the second syllable).

Drow. Rhymes with bow. Meaning I agree with Sebastian's implicit statement that it could go either way. I've always pronounced it as rhyming with cow, but it is derived from "trow" which are underground elves living in the Orkney Islands, off the north coast of Scotland. The etymological origin of the word is the Norse "troll," and I have no idea how "trow" is pronounced in Orkney dialect. If other Scottish dialects are a guide, it might be pronounced "true." But the Orkneys were heavily influenced by Norway and a Norse dialect was spoken there as late as the 18th century, so it's hard to say how close the English spoken in the Orkneys is to the lowland Scots dialects I've heard. I still think it sounds better (in American English) if it rhymes with cow, but that's clearly a personal opinion.

AZ-i-mar. He may be lawful stupid, but he's not quite an ass. (The first syllable is a short "a," like when you stick your tongue out for the doctor.) I'm not sure of this word's etymology, so I could be wrong, but I'd only say ASS-i-mar if I were trying to poke fun at the party paladin. ;)

DU-erh-gar. With emphasis on the first syllable. I could see DWAIR-gar as a plausible alternative, but DUR-ger is a bit of a sloppy joe, IMO. ;)


Oh, and it's most definitely SHAH-man and not SHAY-man, although Webster's does list the latter as an alternate pronunciation. I guess we can admit the latter as an extremely anglicized form of the original word, which is Tungusic in origin--i.e. native to eastern Siberia and Manchuria. The first pronunciation is how the Tungusic peoples like the Manchus say it.


Peruhain of Brithondy wrote:
although Webster's does list the latter as an alternate pronunciation.

yeah, I am SO sick of them doing crap like that. Enough people are too lazy or stupid to pronounce things correctly so they change it in the dictionary. Like people who say strenth, for strength. Or Nuke-yuh-ler. GRRR Idiots!!!

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Heathansson wrote:
Coridan wrote:
I had a friend who used to say Knee-kro-mancer (Necromancer) and Pa-LAD-in (Like Aladdin) instead of Pala-din
I'm gonna start doing that.

I think I've said this before, but I know a guy who thought for years that 'necromancer' was pronounced 'neckermancer.' Bugged the hell out of me. Of course, he also pronounced 'nymph' and 'nnthf' and couldn't say 'tiefling' at all, so he probably had a speech impediment.

Anyway:

- TY-fling
- drOW
- DWAHR-GAHR
- SY-onics
- THREE-KEEN
- TER-ask
- SHAH-man
- lITCH
- AH-sim-ar

Now one for the ages: Sidhe. I it pronunced 'SHEE' (that's how I pronounce it), 'SHEED', 'SHEEda', 'SID', 'SITH', or some other arcane and inexplicable Gaelic pronunciation?

Liberty's Edge

How do you pronounce "shoggoth lord?"


I believe that Sidhe is properly pronounced SHEE in Gaelic, so that's what I go with.
Aasimar is an interesting one from an American English/British English viewpoint. If you start with a short vowel sound it comes out as Ass-i-mar, but a long vowel sound makes it Arse-i-mar. The poor fellows are going to be the butt of a few jokes either way.

Liberty's Edge

Heathansson wrote:
How do you pronounce "shoggoth lord?"

NO! That's the OTHER Mr. Shiny: D. Albert Shiny. Not to be confused with myself, the Rugose Mr. Shiny, the Daemoniac Mr. Shiny, or Mr. Sparkle.

Scarab Sages

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Now one for the ages: Sidhe. I it pronunced 'SHEE' (that's how I pronounce it), 'SHEED', 'SHEEda', 'SID', 'SITH', or some other arcane and inexplicable Gaelic pronunciation?

I've gotten around that term by just never using it.

Liberty's Edge

"zom-BEE" or "zom-B-eye?"


Heathansson wrote:
"zom-BEE" or "zom-B-eye?"

the first one

the second is what you get when you dig out the "goody bits" in new "Necr-O's" brand Cereal!


Heathansson wrote:
"zom-BEE" or "zom-B-eye?"

zom-BIH. Never give away a double-e when you don't have to. The necromancer may be playing scrabble after all....

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In all languages I usually pronounce most races names as "food" but I'm just a Vrock!?!?!

As an old PS greybeard and a speaker of Deutch I still can't bring myself to say Tiefling as TEE-Fling... it sounds Aasinine! I go with the very american TY-fling (because a TIE Fighter is Ty, not TEE Fighter)

Aasimar has always been said by my group as AY-sim-ar.
Drow is Know (even though we all now it's wrong).

--We will, we will, VROCK you!

Lantern Lodge

Tiefling: TY-fling (Tie your shoes, then fling them.)
Drow: DROW (as in Look at that Cow.)
Dwergar: DWAIR-gar
Psionics: SIGH-on-icks
Thri-kreen: THRY-kreen
Tarrasque: TEAR-ask (as in Tear a sheet of paper and ask for more.)
Shaman: SHAH-min
Lich: LITCH
Aasimar: AY-si-mar
Sidhe: SID-he (just like it's spelled.)
Bardiche: BARD-ish
Cuirass: KYER-ass
Ransur: Ran-SIR
Guisarm: Gih-SARM
Iggwilv: Ig-WILL-veh
E.N. World: EE-EN-world
Paizo: PIE-zo
WotC: Woe-t'c (*not* Wot-see)

Also, I heard James Wyatt talking about the Lord of the Ninth the other day. As-mo-DAY-us? Really?

Asmodeus: As-MO-dee-us.

While we're at it..

Atreides: ah-TRAY-ih-deez

-JLA

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