What I would like to see if Stonehenge decks were sold separately

[DocReason]

Hello everyone. I have getting a design bug for games based around the cards in Stonehenge. I am thinking that a deluxe version of the Stonehenge deck would be worth selling.

If I was to produce one, I would like to see the following:
1. Use of letters, A-E, on the cards. 1-6 have A on them. 7-12 have B on them. 13-18 have C on them. 19-24 have D on them. And 25-30 have E on there. These could go in the upper left and lower right hand corners of the cards. This would enable poker style games be created for them, with 5 of a kind being a distinct possibility.
2. An addition of a special card for the black (grey?) suite. This card should be a silhouette of the grey figure, but colored black. It would be similar to the Trilithon card.
3. What the card is put in the corners. For example, the 1 White card (day) would have in the upper left and lower right hand corners, a 1 in White with a White Diamond (day symbol) on it.
4. The cards be standard playing card size.

Another possibility would be to give the Trilithon cards a day/night symbol also (and the black suit special card), making for 3 special cards for each suit, which is similar to the face cards in a standard deck of cards.

Anyone feedback anyone can provide here on this?

[Spardo]

DocReason wrote:

Hello everyone. I have getting a design bug for games based around the cards in Stonehenge. I am thinking that a deluxe version of the Stonehenge deck would be worth selling...

...Anyone feedback anyone can provide here on this?

I'm all for the larger sized cards, simply because the small ones just don't seem like they're going to weather repeated shuffling. Mine are two weeks old and already getting pretty beat.

I think that many of your suggestions would add many interesting new angles to Stonehenge games, and I think that selling the Deluxe Deck separately is a smart move. That way, those of us who already own the original Stonehenge box won’t have to purchase an entire new “system”.

Your suggestion opens up other “option packages” that could easily be sold separately at nice, cheap “impulse buy” prices. A Deluxe Deck might sell for about twelve dollars. A set of special Stonehenge dice could probably go for 7-10 bucks. Other novelty/specialty pieces could be purchased and integrated as the game evolves, and players of Stonehenge variants would have the freedom to pick and choose based on the games they want to play or create.

Consider that a thumbs up.

[DocReason]

Stonehenge Dice? Any idea how those would be done? Do you have a black and white die each have the numbers 1-30 and the numbers on the side match the colors on the board/card?

[Spardo]

DocReason wrote:

Stonehenge Dice? Any idea how those would be done? Do you have a black and white die each have the numbers 1-30 and the numbers on the side match the colors on the board/card?

A black 30-sider and a white 30-sider ain't a bad idea. Hadn't actually thought of those. I was actually starting with just your everyday, basic cubes.

I would imagine that one die would show one of the six colors on each side. Assuming your suggestion for grouping colors and assigning letters (A-E) is adopted, I'd probably also include a die that showed the letters A through E and a trithilon on the sixth side. If we were to go so far as to include a 10-sided die, you could show the five basic colored disks and the five basic colored bars, though this would likely become obsolete or irrelevant once the expansions featuring pieces for extra players (beyond the fifth) become popular.

Of course, we could also just get wacky and include a handful of poker-chip type "coins", one for day/night randomization, one for disk/bar randomization, and the ultimate coin that just says "win" and "lose" (which could just be one really lame game all on it's own).

[DocReason]

Spardo wrote:

DocReason wrote:

Stonehenge Dice? Any idea how those would be done? Do you have a black and white die each have the numbers 1-30 and the numbers on the side match the colors on the board/card?

A black 30-sider and a white 30-sider ain't a bad idea. Hadn't actually thought of those. I was actually starting with just your everyday, basic cubes.

I would imagine that one die would show one of the six colors on each side. Assuming your suggestion for grouping colors and assigning letters (A-E) is adopted, I'd probably also include a die that showed the letters A through E and a trithilon on the sixth side. If we were to go so far as to include a 10-sided die, you could show the five basic colored disks and the five basic colored bars, though this would likely become obsolete or irrelevant once the expansions featuring pieces for extra players (beyond the fifth) become popular.

Of course, we could also just get wacky and include a handful of poker-chip type "coins", one for day/night randomization, one for disk/bar randomization, and the ultimate coin that just says "win" and "lose" (which could just be one really lame game all on it's own).

Are the colored disks that expensive to produce? Maybe you could produce smoother ones that are about the same diameter, and use those as chips instead. Maybe give people a set of 20 of each color of the disks, so they also then have 30 disks per color. Actually having them a different texture would also help separate them.

[Spardo]

I'm about halfway with you on the redesigned disks idea; I actually like the disks that come with the game as they are stylistcally, but I keep thinking that ten just aren't enough. Perhaps alternate disks are a good idea, but I'd hesitate to make them match the size of the original disks simply because getting one stuck in a trithilon would suck a lot. If anything, I'd make the chips thinner than the disks, make their radius slightly larger than the disks (size of an American quarter perhaps?), and emboss a symbol on either side – sun/moon – that would have a radius equal to the disk. That way a chip could be placed atop a trithilon and stay in place, and it could also represent a trithilon in day or night state.

Aside- is it odd that we're now discussing ways to expand upon the tools of the game without actually discussing new games for the pieces? Not that I'm looking for an immediate answer, it's more hypothetical, but something about this feels like creating new tools to be sold in a hardware store, and not having a purpose in mind for them... and I'm enjoying it.

[DocReason]

Spardo wrote:

I'm about halfway with you on the redesigned disks idea; I actually like the disks that come with the game as they are stylistcally, but I keep thinking that ten just aren't enough. Perhaps alternate disks are a good idea, but I'd hesitate to make them match the size of the original disks simply because getting one stuck in a trithilon would suck a lot. If anything, I'd make the chips thinner than the disks, make their radius slightly larger than the disks (size of an American quarter perhaps?), and emboss a symbol on either side – sun/moon – that would have a radius equal to the disk. That way a chip could be placed atop a trithilon and stay in place, and it could also represent a trithilon in day or night state.

Aside- is it odd that we're now discussing ways to expand upon the tools of the game without actually discussing new games for the pieces? Not that I'm looking for an immediate answer, it's more hypothetical, but something about this feels like creating new tools to be sold in a hardware store, and not having a purpose in mind for them... and I'm enjoying it.

In the case of my requesting a new deck, with more cards, it would be to facilitate new designs of new games, and I could think of a bunch of games that could use the new cards I proposed (a poker variant particularly). A main thing would be that it would enable games using standard decks to get new lifes, games like hearts and so on.