Shadow Evocation question


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So last night my players were fighting a creature that had regenration 5 and only took lethal damage from cold. The party's Shadowcaster uses a Shadow Evocation mystery to cast Cone of Cold. Now Shadow Evocation is only 20% real, so here's my question. If the creature fails it's Will save and fails it's Reflex save, does it take 80% of the damage as non-lethal and the other 20% as lethal since the magic is only 20% really cold damage?


According to the spell description, the creature takes only 1/5 damage, none of it nonlethal. Also, additional effects are less powerful or less likely to occur.

It's all on Pg 277 in the PHB.


I'd rule it'd take full damage.

The creature believes it is frozen; it should act as being frozen. That's the whole idea behind the spell, the mind believes, so the body acts like it.

Just like a normal creature takes damage from the spell, even though it isn't actually hit by anything, a regenerative creature should take full damage because it believes the spell is real.

(I hope this is understandable...)

Liberty's Edge

Chris P wrote:
So last night my players were fighting a creature that had regenration 5 and only took lethal damage from cold. The party's Shadowcaster uses a Shadow Evocation mystery to cast Cone of Cold. Now Shadow Evocation is only 20% real, so here's my question. If the creature fails it's Will save and fails it's Reflex save, does it take 80% of the damage as non-lethal and the other 20% as lethal since the magic is only 20% really cold damage?

Based on a similar question that came up in my game, the answer, via WotC CustServ, and by general consensus of people I asked, would be all lethal.

Although it doesn't actually say it in the spell description, any spell cast by shadow evocation should take on the descriptor of the spell you are mimicing. That means in your example, the damage is all cold, "real" or not.


Sounds good. Thanks all.

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