I picked up this book this weekend. If you find some poses difficult to recreate or make realistic (and don't have access to live models), this is definitely worth picking up. Bonus: you get a CDROM with the reference photos on it as well.
Hard cover, but spiral bound - good for laying out on the table.
My friends and other half give me s@#$ because I call my artwork doodling. Probably because I've scribbled on restaurant napkins and have had the waitresses take my scribbles home and put it on the refrigerator.
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I just recently started re-connecting to my repressed artistic tendancies thanks to a bit of inspiration from Lilith's site. I think this book should help. Right now I am doing some pencil sketches of landscapes, ruins, and backgrounds to try to flex and limber up my stagnant abilities. I hadn't drawn anything in over 12 years.
Thanks for the info and the inspirational kick-in-the-pants, Lilith. My doodles aren't turning out too bad.
FH
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I just recently started re-connecting to my repressed artistic tendancies thanks to a bit of inspiration from Lilith's site. I think this book should help. Right now I am doing some pencil sketches of landscapes, ruins, and backgrounds to try to flex and limber up my stagnant abilities. I hadn't drawn anything in over 12 years.
Thanks for the info and the inspirational kick-in-the-pants, Lilith. My doodles aren't turning out too bad.FH
You are a doodle.
(I kid you. I am kidder. Rouge. See there? I kid you again.)
I just recently started re-connecting to my repressed artistic tendancies thanks to a bit of inspiration from Lilith's site. I think this book should help. Right now I am doing some pencil sketches of landscapes, ruins, and backgrounds to try to flex and limber up my stagnant abilities. I hadn't drawn anything in over 12 years.
Thanks for the info and the inspirational kick-in-the-pants, Lilith. My doodles aren't turning out too bad.FH
Aww...thank you Fakey! If I can help inspire even one person, then it's a good day!
I've saved every sketchbook I've had since 10th grade. It's a good way to look over stuff I've done before and see stuff I do now and look at my progress. My mom also (conveniently) saved the first drawing I ever did. It's stuck in my Dynamic Anatomy book as a bookmark to remind myself not to stop and keep moving forward.
Also, my other half is one of my biggest supporters. After years of filling up a wall of our apartment with my artwork, I now have a new wall to fill.
I should take a picture and show The Wall off. I've got stuff from my senior year in high school on that wall. :O
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I've saved every sketchbook I've had since 10th grade. It's a good way to look over stuff I've done before and see stuff I do now and look at my progress.......
My high school sweetie took all my old stuff and destroyed it, books, portfolios (made it hard to get into art school), drawing pencils, charcoal, acrylics, oils, all of it. I used to draw some fantastic dragons, detailed down to little notches in individual scales (much in an Elmore style). I had pen and ink drawings where I would decide to use only a stippling or cross-hatching or whatever technique to do shading that I would use as reference for all my other drawings.
Some people just suck the life out of you. I wish I had all that stuff back. Meh, I guess I will get back to my old ability level in a year or so and until then I will just try to be as diversified as possible, although I will stay away from oils, never really liked the medium.Sorry to be a downer, but thanks again for the inspiration.
FH
My high school sweetie took all my old stuff and destroyed it, books, portfolios (made it hard to get into art school), drawing pencils, charcoal, acrylics, oils, all of it. I used to draw some fantastic dragons, detailed down to little notches in individual scales (much in an Elmore style). I had pen and ink drawings where I would decide to use only a stippling or cross-hatching or whatever technique to do shading that I would use as reference for all my other drawings.
Some people just suck the life out of you. I wish I had all that stuff back. Meh, I guess I will get back to my old ability level in a year or so and until then I will just try to be as diversified as possible, although I will stay away from oils, never really liked the medium.
Sorry to be a downer, but thanks again for the inspiration.FH
Man, that would definitely suck the wind out of my sails. Yikes! I'm giving oils a try - in traditional media, I'm more used to acrylics and watercolors. Colored pencils are fun, too.
Fakey, you should go to DeviantArt.com and put up some of your artwork! Show it off, man! :D
I realize that if I were to define the term artist by what art is produced by the contributors of this topic I would have to say that this topic is not for me...You see I can't draw, not one whit, not even a stick figure...However some people have had the nerve to say that I can spin a yarn using the wonderously confusing medium of the english language...I write...
Some people say it is even good despite the fact that I think it is hyperbolic...crap...but hey I have always known that people whop claim to be artists are their own worst critics.
I have put pen to paper (or finger to key) for an adaptation of the adventure that my lovely wife, lilith has created for me and three friends (DnD). Now I thought then and I still think that it is lacking in form, context, style, and substance...However my friends and my wife have used terms like...."Jaw Dropping Hilarity" "...Man it felt like I was there..." "Gut Wrenchingly Good" "Fan-F238746-Tastic." and my all time favorites..."You captured the emotions, tempo, mood and character of all the PC's and NPCs, when they cried I did, when they laughed, I did..." and "You brought each part I was interested in to a cresendo and then right out of no where switched to another section and did the same thing...FRIGGEN EXCELLENT!!!!"
Hey Farewell2Kings...Can we get a Controlled Substance check in the house :)
The point is this: No matter what art you do...DO IT!!!!
Thank you
The point is this: No matter what art you do...DO IT!!!!
Can I get an AMEN? :D
...some people have had the nerve to say that I can spin a yarn using the wonderously confusing medium of the english language...I write...
Darn that nerve, I tells ya! How dare it speak up and say "This is some good stuff, right thar!"
...despite the fact that I think it is hyperbolic...crap...but hey I have always known that people whop claim to be artists are their own worst critics.
I'm glad you clarified that...*waggles finger at you*
I have put pen to paper (or finger to key) for an adaptation of the adventure that my lovely wife, lilith has created for me and three friends (DnD). Now I thought then and I still think that it is lacking in form, context, style, and substance...However my friends and my wife have used terms like...."Jaw Dropping Hilarity" "...Man it felt like I was there..." "Gut Wrenchingly Good" "Fan-F238746-Tastic." and my all time favorites..."You captured the emotions, tempo, mood and character of all the PC's and NPCs, when they cried I did, when they laughed, I did..." and "You brought each part I was interested in to a cresendo and then right out of no where switched to another section and did the same thing...FRIGGEN EXCELLENT!!!!"
Ah yes - SUCH good adaptations. You should get back to it. *snaps the whip*
...some people have had the nerve to say that I can spin a yarn using the wonderously confusing medium of the english language...I write...Darn that nerve, I tells ya! How dare it speak up and say "This is some good stuff, right thar!"
...despite the fact that I think it is hyperbolic...crap...but hey I have always known that people whop claim to be artists are their own worst critics.I'm glad you clarified that...*waggles finger at you*
I have put pen to paper (or finger to key) for an adaptation of the adventure that my lovely wife, lilith has created for me and three friends (DnD). Now I thought then and I still think that it is lacking in form, context, style, and substance...However my friends and my wife have used terms like...."Jaw Dropping Hilarity" "...Man it felt like I was there..." "Gut Wrenchingly Good" "Fan-F238746-Tastic." and my all time favorites..."You captured the emotions, tempo, mood and character of all the PC's and NPCs, when they cried I did, when they laughed, I did..." and "You brought each part I was interested in to a cresendo and then right out of no where switched to another section and did the same thing...FRIGGEN EXCELLENT!!!!"Ah yes - SUCH good adaptations. You should get back to it. *snaps the whip*
See what I mean Farewell2keings.....Can I get a drug test in the house PLEEEEEEASEEEEEEE......:)))))
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So IRL Captramses and Lilith are married? If so, cool, I always wondered who was the yang to her yin. Hey, Captramses, you should tell your wifey that yous guys need to move to Delaware for the Shiner Bock and good job ops. I need to start a new group with some good people.
And Lilith, I can't do the Deviant Art posting....yet. I have a very fragile confidence level in this area right now and the least bit of critique would probably make me quit drawing for good. I need to cut my teeth on some exercises to rebuild my confidence but when I feel like I have something acceptable I will post after getting a valued opinion on my work (I'll send it to you first for evaluation and THEN I will want an honest critique!)
FH (whipping my inner-child into shape)
So IRL Captramses and Lilith are married? If so, cool, I always wondered who was the yang to her yin.
Yeah, that's my sweetie over there - the freaky one with the buggy green eyes!!!
And Lilith, I can't do the Deviant Art posting....yet. I have a very fragile confidence level in this area right now and the least bit of critique would probably make me quit drawing for good. I need to cut my teeth on some exercises to rebuild my confidence but when I feel like I have something acceptable I will post after getting a valued opinion on my work (I'll send it to you first for evaluation and THEN I will want an honest critique!)
FH (whipping my inner-child into shape)
I eagerly await the results of the whipping. :D
I picked up this book this weekend. If you find some poses difficult to recreate or make realistic (and don't have access to live models), this is definitely worth picking up. Bonus: you get a CDROM with the reference photos on it as well.
Hard cover, but spiral bound - good for laying out on the table.
Cool! I've never even HEARD of this one. I've got a veritable library of anatomy books, but never thought to look in the fantasy art section for such. The closest I've got is Burne Hogarth's series and that comic-book figure drawing one by Christopher Hart that a friend gave me. And only $20 bucks! Damn! I spent nearly $100 for the Charles Bargue one!
Did you ever fool around with any of the computer 3D modeling programs?
My high school sweetie took all my old stuff and destroyed it, books, portfolios (made it hard to get into art school), drawing pencils, charcoal, acrylics, oils, all of it. . . . Sorry to be a downer, but thanks again for the inspiration.
FH
Wow. I'm thunderstruck.
I met an artist once who made a thin living by painting all winter and driving around to art festivals all summer, setting up a booth, and selling her work. She kept everything she painted, her entire inventory, in her van. Someone stole it. Over a year's worth of work - and income (insurance helped little)! - gone.
I hang on to old artwork because it's a stronger link to the past than photos. I can't imagine someone willfully destroying them. I'd kill the (insert appropriate obscenity).
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I hang on to old artwork because it's a stronger link to the past than photos. I can't imagine someone willfully destroying them. I'd kill the (insert appropriate obscenity).
Every ounce of restraint went into keeping me from doing that, but the breakup sent me spiraling into a dark place that took 5 or so years of my life and shattered most of my idealistic dreams. My eyes are wide and I am on my path now though. Nobody will ever be able to undo who I am except me.
FH (what doesn't kill us still f*%@ing sucks)
I hang on to old artwork because it's a stronger link to the past than photos. I can't imagine someone willfully destroying them. I'd kill the (insert appropriate obscenity).
Every ounce of restraint went into keeping me from doing that, but the breakup sent me spiraling into a dark place that took 5 or so years of my life and shattered most of my idealistic dreams. My eyes are wide and I am on my path now though. Nobody will ever be able to undo who I am except me.
FH (what doesn't kill us still f*%@ing sucks)
There you go! Strength of character! Always inspiring. (But now I've got that Gloria Gaynor song stuck in my head for the rest of the afternoon. Thanks for that.)
Cool! I've never even HEARD of this one. I've got a veritable library of anatomy books, but never thought to look in the fantasy art section for such. The closest I've got is Burne Hogarth's series and that comic-book figure drawing one by Christopher Hart that a friend gave me. And only $20 bucks! Damn! I spent nearly $100 for the Charles Bargue one!
Did you ever fool around with any of the computer 3D modeling programs?
I regularly troll the Fantasy Art/Art section - good stuff pops in there from time to time. There are reference books from Antarctic Press that I'd like to get as well, the Weapons Files and the Posefiles.
I have used the 3d modeling programs, particularly Poser, for working out action poses n' such. Using them on a regular basis I leave for my friend - he's much better at it than I am. For the most part, I find myself getting impatient with them. I am intrigued by blending 3D rendered background with hand-drawn figures, kinda like Masamune Shirow.
And before I forget, BRYCE 5 is being offered for free at CNET - it's a limited time offer ('til September 13th), so if you want a good, popular, 3D modelling program, git ir dun!
Fakey, I totally agree with your last line - it may not kill us, but man does it SUCK sometimes.
I have used the 3d modeling programs, particularly Poser, for working out action poses n' such. Using them on a regular basis I leave for my friend - he's much better at it than I am. For the most part, I find myself getting impatient with them. I am intrigued by blending 3D rendered background with hand-drawn figures, kinda like Masamune Shirow.
And before I forget, BRYCE 5 is being offered for free at CNET - it's a limited time offer ('til September 13th), so if you want a good, popular, 3D modelling program, git ir dun!
Thanks much for the free Bryce heads-up! Downloading it now. I'm solid in Photoshop but rarely use any other graphics programs. I dabble in Painter upon occasion, but trust my brushes far more.
My job makes access to life models a regular thing, so I work from life a couple times a week. My mentor's leaning on me to add some solid nudes and landscapes to my largely-portrait portfolio to broaden my professional reach and gallery interest. So more naked people coming up!
Nonetheless, I'm fascinated by Poser and similar programs, and will undoubtedly pick one up in the not-to-distant future. Is Poser the best?
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Thing I used to do, get some tracing paper, and trace stuff actual artists drew out of comic books and books and what-not. It helps you get the feel of drawing stuff.
And don't hyper-analyze anything you draw.
I went to the Tony DiTerlizzi site, and he had a special section of stuff that he drew that just came out jacked up.
If it sucks, it sucks; suck it up and drive on. Gotta break some eggs, man.
That's my unsolicited advice for the day.
FH, if you haven't already, check out Elfwood--which has a wide range of art posted from people with a wide range of ability and training. It will both help you build confidence and give you some ideas, I suspect. It's also a pretty supportive community on the whole from what I've seen, although occasionally flamers wander through and do drive-by shootings on the boards. Mostly the occasional fanatic who thinks nudity = pornography and thus has no business visiting an art website.
I know what you mean about vampiric, life-sucking relationships, having been through two of them. It doesn't mean the other person is evil, just f-ed up--and they do f-ed up things to you as a result. It sets you back, because when you could have been growing and blossoming you have to spend all your energy replacing the limbs they hacked off. Just keep nurturing what you've got and it will grow back, and probably become more powerful and beautiful and deep as a result of the suffering and life experience you've been through.
(Like Lillith's bug-eyed better half, my talents lie more in words than brush-strokes, but I let them languish for way too long, in part because of negative energy emanating from the woman I was with. I've been indulging in novel-writing for the last couple of years, because I need to. Don't know if I'll ever get anything published, but that's kind of secondary. So, I know how this stuff is. Just gotta be who you are and don't let someone pretend they love you if they don't respect and treasure that artistic part of you.)
Ashenvale--I saw your maps on your website (and the ones that got published in Dungeon) and they're really cool. I love doing maps myself--I've been doing them since I was about five. It's the one kind of drawing I'm fairly good at (at least my son thinks so). Getting those cool 3-D effects is something I'd like to learn how to do. And how do you get your maps published in Dungeon or elsewhere? (Sorry if this constitutes a thread-jack).
Ashenvale, I like Poser because there are approximately a gazillion + 1 resource files, models and accessories for it. Anything you could possibly want to do with it, you can.
It's also a pretty supportive community on the whole from what I've seen, although occasionally flamers wander through and do drive-by shootings on the boards. Mostly the occasional fanatic who thinks nudity = pornography and thus has no business visiting an art website.
Elfwood is good, I like it. Much like deviantArt, there are just SO MANY pages that sometimes it's easy to get lost in the noise of so much stuff. Flamers and close-minded individuals are just annoying - don't pay any attention to what they say or do. If it gets to be harassment, then there are steps to report it to the site admins.
(Like Lillith's bug-eyed better half, my talents lie more in words than brush-strokes...
Dude, I thought you knew - words ARE brush strokes. You're just painting on a different canvas, that's all. ;)
Ashenvale--I saw your maps on your website (and the ones that got published in Dungeon) and they're really cool. I love doing maps myself--I've been doing them since I was about five. It's the one kind of drawing I'm fairly good at (at least my son thinks so). Getting those cool 3-D effects is something I'd like to learn how to do. And how do you get your maps published in Dungeon or elsewhere? (Sorry if this constitutes a thread-jack).
I'm pretty sure it was Photoshop, though anything that lets you contort and distort selections will let you do that, so programs like Paint Shop Pro should be able to do it as well.
You know what might be fun to try? Using a combination of Bryce & Photoshop to create some maps. That would be fun, methinks. :D
I don't have a tremendous amount to add beyond the advice that if you can find a live model (classes at the local community center, art school, or just asking a friend or relative to let you draw them while they're reading the newspaper or watching tv) draw from life as much as possible. Photographs are great reference tools, but there's really nothing like having a person (clothed or nude, posed or casual) right in front of you to draw from, especially if you're still getting the basics down or are in need of practice. Still lifes are terribly boring, but so essential to learn space relationships.
It's also important to learn to start basic. Don't draw the details until the whole figure is mapped out. I'm still learning this and I'm on my fourth year of art school. Squint when you draw from life; one of my painting teachers has told me that once you learn to squint, you can pretty much eliminate grad school. Forcing yourself to start basic is so important.
Be omnivorous. Fine art, illustration, cartooning; they all have something you can learn from. Even the conceptual fine art stuff.
One of my school's old ad posters says,"Paul Gaugin worked in a bank until the age of 35. It's never too late."
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http://jamesmkeegan.blogspot.com
Really no fantasy artwork, and it's student stuff. And I don't have the time to learn html or the money for a website, but I think I do okay.
Ashenvale--I saw your maps on your website (and the ones that got published in Dungeon) and they're really cool. I love doing maps myself--I've been doing them since I was about five. It's the one kind of drawing I'm fairly good at (at least my son thinks so). Getting those cool 3-D effects is something I'd like to learn how to do. And how do you get your maps published in Dungeon or elsewhere? (Sorry if this constitutes a thread-jack).
Wow! Thanks! I'm all in favor of a thread-jack that opens with a compliment!
Lilith (as happens all too often) is exactly right. I use Photoshop for all my maps. I don't know of and don't use any tools within Photoshop that make 3D effects easier. I just apply good old-fashioned drawing techniques to the graphic medium. I do make copious use of layers. I'd love to discuss this in depth and happily share my short-cuts and secrets, but that would take a lot of words and WOULD be highjacking the thread. If you want to pursue this further, we'll have to start a separate thread. (Maybe we can even get Christopher West to jump in among us lowly mortals, you never know! -- That sounded sarcastic. It wasn't meant to be. We ARE lowly mortals, and he IS that good!)
How do you get Dungeon to look at your maps? Be persistent and friendly (which you seem to be anyway, so that should be easy). They're always happy to look at new illustrators and cartographers. Like most publishers in the industry today, they prefer that you have a website they can browse at their leisure.
When I got the job for Steve's fabulous adventure, "Fiend's Embrace," I didn't have a website yet. I just grabbed my five best maps, shrunk them down to 800-pixel-tall JPEGs, attached them to an email soliciting work, then sent it to the editors at Paizo. Then I just got lucky. About a week later, I got a call from Mike Schley, one of their associate editors doing illustrations and mapping at that time. He asked me if I'd like to do a map like my mountainside map for a cold-swamp adventure. I danced and shouted and tore my clothes and knocked things over and laughed and cried and laughed and cried some more. Then I did the maps he asked for. One was the overland map, the other the adventure-site map. It was a fabulous experience throughout. They're terrific working with new people, showing them the ropes, and producing the best product as a team.
Nonetheless, I'd recommend the webside approach. It's the most dramatic and easiest way to display your work.
I don't know anything. I've got no magic and little useful experience. But this is what I think:
The folks at Dungeon are good folks. They're smart and always looking for ways to make better issues of the mag. Approach them like a professional. Be clear, be simple, be direct, and show them nothing but your BEST work. When they call or write back, be friendly, light-hearted, and enthusiastic. Take all criticism with a smile and thank them heartily, then think about their criticism seriously afterwards. They never gave me a single shred of bad advice, although I didn't always see that when I first got it. Always show your enthusiasm for what you do. They're equally enthusiastic and looking for kindred spirits. Never be wordy (like I am now). Be succinct, a mark of professionalism.
And never, ever give up.
- Ted
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Really no fantasy artwork, and it's student stuff. And I don't have the time to learn html or the money for a website, but I think I do okay.
Hey James! Great stuff! Good for you for getting it up. Never apologize for being a student. Studying art is like studying a martial art -- you're never done learning. We're all students for life. And you're at a great school to get a start!
If you love illustration, do some fantasy art. Always do some work in whatever field you're passionate about, even if its not marketable or prestigious. (Advice I wish someone had given me long ago!) And just keep doing what you're doing! Thanks for posting your site!
-Ted
Shameless self promotion.
http://jamesmkeegan.blogspot.com
Really no fantasy artwork, and it's student stuff. And I don't have the time to learn html or the money for a website, but I think I do okay.
Hey James! Good stuff! Good for you for getting it up. Never apologize for being a student. Studying art is like studying a martial art -- you're never done learning. And you're at a great school for it!
If you love illustration, do some fantasy art. Always do some work in whatever field you're passionate about, even if its not marketable or prestigious. (Advice I wish someone had given me long ago!) And just keep doing what you're doing! Thanks for posting your site!
-Ted
Thanks, Ted! Good advice, of course. My foundation (pre college) is actually in fantasy art. I even interned with a fantasy artist (who is actually getting really well known, since he does Magic cards now) whose work fills me with the sense of just how far I have to go. I met up with him over the summer and he encouraged me to get back into the Dungeons and Dragons art market, since I know so much about it and it's something I love so well.
The thing about going to art school is that they fill your head with garbage, sometimes without even knowing it. I love going to SVA and it's been the best four years of my life. But there is a certain stressed way of doing things. Most of the teachers in my program are editorial illustrators or fine artists, and it sometimes seems that things that aren't as "concept-driven" are seen as being somehow less intelligent and less valuable. My goal for my last year is to figure out my next move, which right now is looking more and more like working in the fantasy/sci-fi/horror/underground comics field. My challenge now is to take those good concepts I was taught and bring them into my fantasy artwork to try and make it something distinctly my own. One of the other important things I've learned is that it'll probably be a good decade before I end up making a living at this, and that's only if I'm dilligent.
Thanks, Ted! Good advice, of course. My foundation (pre college) is actually in fantasy art. I even interned with a fantasy artist (who is actually getting really well known, since he does Magic cards now) whose work fills me with the sense of just how far I have to go. I met up with him over the summer and he encouraged me to get back into the Dungeons and Dragons art market, since I know so much about it and it's something I love so well.
The thing about going to art school is that they fill your head with garbage, sometimes without even knowing it. I love going to SVA and it's been the best four years of my life. But there is a certain stressed way of doing things. Most of the teachers in my program are editorial illustrators or fine artists, and it sometimes seems that things that aren't as "concept-driven" are seen as being somehow less intelligent and less valuable. My goal for my last year is to figure out my next move, which right now is looking more and more like working in the fantasy/sci-fi/horror/underground comics field. My challenge now is to take those good concepts I was taught and bring them into my fantasy artwork to try and make it something distinctly my own. One of the other important things I've learned is that it'll...
Damn, James, you've got a good head on your shoulders for a 21-year old! In addition to art, I studied English literature, writing, and, ultimately, law. No matter what the field, there were folks who filled my head with garbage. I was about 30 when I realized that losing brain cells when I drank too much wasn't necessarily a bad thing after all. (NOT that I recommend that method of dumping garbage memory!) When you're 21 and in art school, keep the fact that you have to make a living in CLEARLY in front of you. Very few people make enough money to support themselves, let alone a family, in fantasy illustration. Those that do are extraordinarily gifted.
But we can't deny our passions either. My best advice (for what little it's worth) is, keep one eye on the financial future and the other on what you must do during this one-and-only lifetime you've got to satisfy your soul. Strive for a balance between the two. I've never gotten it balanced perfectly, but that doesn't mean you won't.
James, one quick other warning - a piece of unsolicited advice. Be cautious. New York City is often far in advance of the rest of the art world in terms of its tolerance of what constitutes art. Illustrators are often treated as equals with fine artists in New York. Sadly, elsewhere, that's not usually the case.
I'm in the Washington, DC market. I've been told time and again by galleries and other artists that if patrons of my "fine art" learn that I "illustrate" for the gaming and fantasy/sci-fi book industries, that would undermine the prices I get for portraits, figures, and still-life paintings. It's pathetic and sick, but you may need to live something of a double life to take full advantage of both worlds.
Okay, I've COMPLETELY hijacked the thread now, so I'll shut up. Sorry everybody!
Oh, James Keegan?
That painting of Karl Rove talking out the side of his face? PRECIOUS, baby.
And before I forget, BRYCE 5 is being offered for free at CNET - it's a limited time offer ('til September 13th), so if you want a good, popular, 3D modelling program, git ir dun!
Thanks for the link. I really want to try this.
Okay, I've COMPLETELY hijacked the thread now, so I'll shut up. Sorry everybody!
Not really - you're still talking about art, so your replies still apply. :) Chock this thread full of references, suggestions, all that fun stuff.
Another good book - Dragonart - How To Draw Fantastic Dragons and Fantasy Creatures by Jessica Peffer. Really good, does an excellent job of breaking down different dragon types into simple shapes and adding the horns, tails, scales and frills.
Another good book - Dragonart - How To Draw Fantastic Dragons and Fantasy Creatures by Jessica Peffer. Really good, does an excellent job of breaking down different dragon types into simple shapes and adding the horns, tails, scales and frills.
Cool! Thanks, Lilith!