Hello all,
We've been discussing various ways to make SCAP more dynamic on this forum, and I have to say that the input is amazing. Everyone has thrown a lot of good ideas together, and most of it makes a great deal of sense.
Has anyone attempted to use the AGoT d20 (A Game of Thrones) Reputation and Influence rules in SCAP? I've decided to give it a whirl - my players are just now beginning to make a name for themselves, and the Reputation rules from UA don't quite do it for me.
AGoT seems a perfect match - you've got competing interests, a compelling setting that seems to inspire players towards building their own legacies/guilds/businesses/noble houses/sewer projects. I've dropped the reach of the Social Standing levels a bit - the lord mayor is Rank 6, instead of having a king at that level.
Any thoughts on the matter?
I'm keeping it simple. PCs get a circumstance bonus to Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, and Perform checks equal to their level/4 when interacting with a citizen of Cauldron that recognizes them or someone outside of Cauldron whom I believe has heard about them.
Rich Burlew wrote a pretty good variant rule for diplomacy a long time ago. You can find it here. It takes into account the level and status of a pc. It's probably not as elaborate as the AGoT rules (which I don't own b.t.w.), but it's pretty well though out and it's free.
I loved the books, but I have to admit I don't know that mechanic, could you give us a run-down on how it works/differs from UA?
Hrm. Without posting text from the books, I can give you a basic rundown. I'll do Reputation first, then Influence in a bit.
As the character's level up, they gain a Reputation modifier (the progression is based upon what kind of class, so a bard, cleric, or paladin gets a reputation more quickly than, say, a barbarian) - the player determines (with the DM's approval) what that Reputation is. For example, a third level character may have a Reputation modifier of +1, and that Reputation could be "Hero of Lantern Street."
Any time the Reputation applies, the character gets the modifier as either a bonus or a penalty to social skills (Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate, Sense Motive, etc) - so if you are dealing with someone who would view a "Hero of Lantern Street" as a positive, you would get that +1 bonus; if you were dealing with Kazmojen, it would be a -1 penalty.
I don't have my UA with me, but IIRC, it's a circumstance modifier that slowly increases as you complete adventures, which makes it purely a DM call.
I don't have my UA with me, but IIRC, it's a circumstance modifier that slowly increases as you complete adventures, which makes it purely a DM call.
Actually, there are two variants of the Reputation rules in UA, a basic one that works like what you described from AGoT, and a more elaborate one that works like above.
I don't have my UA with me, but IIRC, it's a circumstance modifier that slowly increases as you complete adventures, which makes it purely a DM call.Actually, there are two variants of the Reputation rules in UA, a basic one that works like what you described from AGoT, and a more elaborate one that works like above.
Really? Hrm. I remember the basic layout - I must have missed the expanded rules in UA.
Here 'ya go. Reputation rules from Unearthed Arcana 3e.
Here 'ya go. Reputation rules from Unearthed Arcana 3e.
They are similar in effect, although the actual mechanics differ. Thanks for the link!