ok, i have a question that i need answered. if the firre eladrin, with its Song Ability, from the Book of Exalted Deeds takes levels in the seeker of the song prestige class from the complete arcane, would it be able to use all of it's seeker of the song abilities at will? is this not Broken?
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Ok Drakor, I'll see if I can help you out.
firstly, a firre eladrin must be an advanced specimen or have some class levels to meet the requirements of the prestige class, since a normal eladrin cannot have 13 ranks in a skill.
Secondly, since the firre must be exposed to a seeker's musical ability the DM can make this as hard or as easy to accomplish as he or she wants.
Thirdly, while a firre can use bardic music as a bard can, a pedantic DM might say that this does not meet the requirements of the prestige class. The DM might say that the firre needs to be an actual bard. I say that this is pendatic because all it says under the requirements to become a seeker is "bardic music ability".
Other than that, your'e right. The combination is exceptionally powerful, and might even be considered "broken". Then again, the song ability of the firre is powerful enough to begin with!
thank you. the way i see it, a firre eladrin, as an 8 HD creature, would need only 2 levels in any class to be eligible for the seeker of the song, as this would bring it up to 10 HD, making it able to have up to 13 ranks in a skill. all it has to do is change it's focus slightly towards knowledge arcana, and it seems to me that it would be fine.
of course this applies to any prestige class that uses bardic music per day, so if it were to take a level in sorcerer, it would be eligible for the virtuoso class, and be able to use those powers at will as well.
imagine if it were to fall from grace!
Really, the firre is only broken if a DM allows one to be used as a PC race in his or her game. Using the firre/seeker song combo for an NPC is fine as long as the DM does not abuse the power of the creature in a way that is unfair to the players (or overly favorable to them either).
The other thing to remember is that its a broken monster/prestige class combination, and not something worse. Thankfully, 3.5 has pretty much gotten rid of most of the broken spells, magic items, etc. that used to exist in 3.0. A broken monster/prestige class combo at least isn't available to every player.