Currently I am rolling my treasures, especially magic items, up using the DMG. The problem is that this book only includes things found in the core books.
I really need tables that inlude the equipment and magic items (especially spell scrolls and potions) from the varous other books. From my perspective everything in the complete series and teh expanded Psionics handbook would be ideal but I could probably modify tables that where short some of these books or had others included such as the Forgotten Realms setting.
I need random spell tables that include this material as well - though if I had a table to generate random arcane scrolls including all these books then I would obvously also have a table for generating any random spells I might need.
Anyone know of such a resource? Also what are other DMs doing in terms of this? How are you generating your random magic items? How are you incorperating new spells into your game?
Ultradan to the Rescue!!!
Well Billy, I almost always use online treasure generators when I prepare my sessions in advance. Try the following: Go to 'dndadventure.com', then click on 'DM Stuff' on the left sidebar. Scroll down a little and choose 'Jamis Buck's Treasure Generator'. It really comes through for me. Tell me how you like it.
As for spells, I find that there a plenty enough spells in the core rules for me. So I can't help you there... But I'm pretty sure you can find what you need on the same website I mentioned before.
Up, up, and awayyyyy!!
Ultradan
Do a google search for Jamis Buck. He's put out several generators, including a treasure generator, that looks at several non-DMG books. I don't know if it's been updated yet to 3.5, though.
A generator like this is one of those "in my spare time" projects. :-)
Whatever that silly "spare time" thing is...
I know what you mean ... I've slowly been compiling a "master treasure list" for my FR campaign, including FR and other sources, with a chance for "rare" treasures.
I have it as a word file ... if you would like a copy, please email me directly at checkyboy (at) gmail.com
Which other sources?
What I'm looking for is something that includes the entire 'Complete' series, Book of Exalted Deeds, Expanded Psionics Handbook. That said if it has some or most of these plus Forgotten Realms Material then I can probably simply modify it. Possibly replacing Forgotten Realms material with Expanded Psionics Handbook material.
Do a google search for Jamis Buck. He's put out several generators, including a treasure generator, that looks at several non-DMG books. I don't know if it's been updated yet to 3.5, though...
Looks good and if it was updated to 3.5 and had any of the 'Complete' books or psionics or the Book of Exalted Deeds I might use it. Sadly it has none of these meaning its just a core rules generator for me...which I already have (since I have the DMG) - though not one as cool as this.
This certianly is the kind of thing I am looking for and its ability to choose source books is just awsome. To bad its not been updated.
If i ever get my D&D site setup this is one of my first projects, a treasure/spell generator and big lists of stuff from WotC, Dragon and 3rd party stuff.
But it is tough so either wait 'till someone makes a table/generator or start on your own (the hard way basically ;P )
I know what you mean ... I've slowly been compiling a "master treasure list" for my FR campaign, including FR and other sources, with a chance for "rare" treasures.
I have it as a word file ... if you would like a copy, please email me directly at checkyboy (at) gmail.com
Well thinking about this some more. I'm begining to think I will have to make specific tables to cover the source books etc. that I am using but I am difinitly interested in seeing what you are doing. For possible ideas if for no other reason.
Its really to bad that there is not some kind of master table out there. I'm begining to think that an uber table including everything from every major book might be best. Source everything with the name of the book and the page number. Everyone just rerolls until they get material from a source they are using.
Are you going to be using a database backend, or not?
Are you going to be using a database backend, or not?
Probably not 'cause I don't know how.
That said I'll make them in tables that can be exported to a spread sheet. From there its usually easy for some one to feed that into a database.
In fact I might get one of business partners, who is a 'techie to do it, as he is a player in my campaign.
Here is the link to the sight that I use. Very Cool.
http://www.aarg.net/~minam/treasure2.cgi
Here's something that I've been working on:
http://216.228.168.97:8080/dnd_wiki/treasure.php
Only does gems and coins right now, working on everything else. Far from perfect, I've still got some things to fix and improve. (If you experience any slowness, I'm sorry - it's a fixer-upper box that I use for fun projects.)
Here is the link to the sight that I use. Very Cool.
http://www.aarg.net/~minam/treasure2.cgi
Yeah I've seen this and its cool - but its for 3.0 not 3.5.
Here's something that I've been working on:
http://216.228.168.97:8080/dnd_wiki/treasure.php
Only does gems and coins right now, working on everything else. Far from perfect, I've still got some things to fix and improve. (If you experience any slowness, I'm sorry - it's a fixer-upper box that I use for fun projects.)
Wow.
This has some real potential. Good luck. I can't wait until you get to the part where you do magic items.
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I agree a master list has potential ... about a year ago I suggested it as an ongoing article for Dungeon, but (Jesse?) said there was no interest in tables. I'd still be willing to do master lists for Dungeon if they'd be interested ...
Here's my current master table for potions. It doesn't include every source (I do about two books a week), and for the 30% unusual section I've marked items as 1% (for non-FR sources) and 3% for FR sources (to keep that FR feeling).
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Potions
(Only spells of 0-3rd level, casting time of <1min)
5% cursed, 1% shadow weave, 30% unusual/realms specific
Mnr Med Mjr Potion or Oil Price Source
01–10 — — Cure light wounds 50 gp
11–13 — — Endure elements 50 gp
14–15 — — Hide from animals 50 gp
16–17 — — Hide from undead 50 gp
18–19 — — Jump 50 gp
20–22 — — Mage armor (potion) 50 gp
23–25 — — Magic fang (potion) 50 gp
26 — — Magic stone (oil) 50 gp
27–29 — — Magic weapon (oil) 50 gp
30 — — Pass without trace 50 gp
31–32 — — Protection from (align) 50 gp
33–34 — — Remove fear (potion) 50 gp
35 — — Sanctuary (potion) 50 gp
36–38 — — Shield of faith +2 50 gp
39 — — Shillelagh (oil) 50 gp
40–41 01–02 — Bless weapon (oil) 100 gp
42–44 03–04 — Enlarge person 250 gp
45 05 — Reduce person 250 gp
46–47 06 — Aid (potion) 300 gp
48–50 07 — Barkskin +2 300 gp
51–53 08–10 — Bear’s endurance 300 gp
54–56 11–13 01–02 Blur (potion) 300 gp
57–59 14–16 — Bull’s strength 300 gp
60–62 17–19 — Cat’s grace (potion) 300 gp
63–67 20–27 03–07 Cure moderate wounds 300 gp
68 28 — Darkness (oil) 300 gp
69–71 29–30 08–09 Darkvision 300 gp
72–74 31 — Delay poison 300 gp
75–76 32–33 — Eagle’s splendor 300 gp
77–78 34–35 — Fox’s cunning 300 gp
79–81 36–37 10–11 Invisibility [P/O] 300 gp
82–84 38 12 Lesser restoration 300 gp
85–86 39 — Levitate [P/O] 300 gp
87 40 — Misdirection 300 gp
88–89 41–42 — Owl’s wisdom 300 gp
90–91 43 — Protection from arrows 10/magic 300 gp
92–93 44 13 Remove paralysis 300 gp
94–96 45–46 — Resist energy (type) 10 300 gp
97 47–48 14 Shield of faith +3 300 gp
98–99 49 — Spider climb 300 gp
00 50 15 Undetectable alignment 300 gp
— 51 16 Barkskin +3 600 gp
— 52 17–18 Shield of faith +4 600 gp
— 53–55 19–20 Resist energy (type) 20 700 gp
— 56–60 21–28 Cure serious wounds 750 gp
— 61 29 Daylight (oil) 750 gp
— 62–64 30–32 Displacement 750 gp
— 65 33 Flame arrow (oil) 750 gp
— 66–68 34–38 Fly (potion) 750 gp
— 69 39 Gaseous form 750 gp
— 70–71 — Greater magic fang +1 750 gp
— 72–73 — Greater magic weapon +1 (o) 750 gp
— 74–75 40–41 Haste 750 gp
— 76–78 42–44 Heroism 750 gp
— 79–80 45–46 Keen edge (oil) 750 gp
— 81 47 Magic circle against (AL) 750 gp
— 82–83 — Magic vestment +1 750 gp
— 84–86 48–50 Neutralize poison 750 gp
— 87–88 51–52 Nondetection 750 gp
— 89–91 53–54 Protection from energy (type) 750 gp
— 92–93 55 Rage 750 gp
— 94 56 Remove blindness/deafness 750 gp
— 95 57 Remove curse 750 gp
— 96 58 Remove disease 750 gp
— 97 59 Tongues 750 gp
— 98–99 60 Water breathing 750 gp
— 00 61 Water walk 750 gp
— — 62–63 Barkskin +4 900 gp
— — 64 Shield of faith +5 900 gp
— — 65 Good hope 1,050 gp
— — 66–68 Resist energy (type) 30 1,100 gp
— — 69 Barkskin +5 1,200 gp
— — 70–73 Greater magic fang +2 1,200 gp
— — 74–77 Greater magic weapon +2 (o) 1,200 gp
— — 78–81 Magic vestment +2 (oil) 1,200 gp
— — 82 Protection from arrows 15/magic 1,500 gp
— — 83–85 Greater magic fang +3 1,800 gp
— — 86–88 Greater magic weapon +3 (o) 1,800 gp
— — 89–91 Magic vestment +3 (oil) 1,800 gp
— — 92–93 Greater magic fang +4 2,400 gp
— — 94–95 Greater magic weapon +4 (o) 2,400 gp
— — 96–97 Magic vestment +4 (oil) 2,400 gp
— — 98 Greater magic fang +5 3,000 gp
— — 99 Greater magic weapon +5 (o) 3,000 gp
— — 00 Magic vestment +5 (oil) 3,000 gp
1% -- -- Preserve organ 25 gp BVD 101
1% -- -- Repair minor damage [O] 25 gp CA 120
3% -- -- Stick [O] 25 gp FRUD 61
1% -- -- Aberrate 50 gp BVD 84
1% -- -- Accuracy [O] 50 gp CA 96
1% -- -- Beastland ferocity 50 gp PH 95
3% -- -- Camoflage 50 gp FRUD 56
1% -- -- Cheat 50 gp BVD 87
3% -- -- Claws of the beast 50 gp PGTF 101
1% -- -- Cloak of shade 50 gp SAND 112
1% -- -- Darklight [P/O] 50 gp BVD 91
1% -- -- Demonflesh 50 gp BVD 92
1% -- -- Devil’s tail 50 gp BVD 92
1% -- -- Drug resistance 50 gp BVD 93
1% -- -- Ease of breath 50 gp FROST 93
1% -- -- Fiery eyes 50 gp CA 106
1% -- -- Fist of stone 50 gp CA 107
1% -- -- Float 50 gp FROST 94
1% -- -- Fortify cold creatures 50 gp FROST 94
1% -- -- Glaze lock [O] 50 gp FROST 97
1% -- -- Ice skate 50 gp FROST100
1% -- -- Ivory flesh 50 gp FROST101
1% -- -- Kuo-toa skin 50 gp STRM 118
1% -- -- Light of lunia 50 gp PH 100
3% -- -- Loresong 50 gp D335/76
3% -- -- Low-light vision 50 gp FRUE 51
3% -- -- Protection from winged flyers 50 gp FRSS 48
1% -- -- Quickswim 50 gp STRM 120
1% -- -- Repair light damage [O] 50 gp CA 120
1% -- -- Resist planar alignment 50 gp PH 104
1% -- -- Scales of the lizard 50 gp CA 121
3% -- -- Sea legs 50 gp FRSS 49
1% -- -- Suspend disease 50 gp BVD 106
1% -- -- Waste strider 50 gp SAND 128
1% -- -- Webfoot 50 gp STRM 125
1% -- -- Woodwisp arrow [O] 50 gp FRCR 37
1% -- -- Distort weapon [O] 100 gp BVD 92
3% 3% -- Infertility 150 gp FRMF 145
1% 1% -- Apparition [P/O] 300 gp CA 97
1% 1% -- Avoid planar effects
(specific plane) 300 gp PH 94
1% 1% -- Belker claws 300 gp PH 96
1% 1% -- Blades of fire [O] 300 gp CA 99
3% 3% -- Blinding spittle 300 gp PGTF 100
3% 3% -- Blindsight 300 gp PGTF 100
3% 3% -- Burrow 300 gp FRUD 56
1% 1% -- Chameleon 300 gp CA 100
1% 1% -- Devil’s tongue 300 gp BVD 92
3% 3% -- Easy trail 300 gp FRSS 46
1% 1% -- Fangs of the vampire king 300 gp BVD 95
1% 1% -- Fins to feet 300 gp STRM 117
1% 1% -- Freedom of breath 300 gp SAND 116
1% 1% -- Frost weapon [O] 300 gp FROST 95
3% 3% -- Halaster’s light step 300 gp FRWA 154
1% 1% -- Hydrate 300 gp SAND 117
1% 1% -- Jaws of the moray 300 gp STRM 117
1% 1% -- Light of mercuria 300 gp PH 100
3% 3% -- Mark of the Outcast (oil) 300 gp FRUD 59
1% 1% -- Mechanus mind 300 gp PH 101
3% 3% -- Palandusk’s fire breath 300 gp FRWA 156
1% 1% -- Protection from charm 300 gp CA 118
1% 1% -- Protection from dessication 300 gp SAND 119
3% 3% -- Reflective disguise 300 gp FRUD 61
1% 1% -- Repair moderate damage 300 gp CA 120
1% 1% -- Snow walk 300 gp FROST104
1% 1% -- Swim 300 gp STORM122
1% 1% -- Tern’s persistence 300 gp STORM123
1% 1% -- Tojanida sight 300 gp STORM123
1% 1% -- Urchin’s spines 300 gp STORM124
-- 3% 3% Air breathing 750 gp FRCR 28
-- 3% 3% Amorphous Form 750 gp FRUD 56
-- 1% 1% Arms of plenty 750 gp LOM 209
-- 1% 1% Attune form 750 gp PH 94
-- 1% 1% Babau slime 750 gp PH 95
-- 3% 3% Backblast 750 gp FRLE 30
-- 3% 3% Baneblade [O] 750 gp FRUE 48
-- 1% 1% Boneblade [O] 750 gp BVD 86
-- 3% 3% Clearstone [O] 750 gp FRLE 31
-- 3% 3% Coral groth 750 gp FRSS 45
-- 1% 1% Demon wings 750 gp BVD 91
-- 1% 1% Devil’s ego 750 gp BVD 92
-- 1% 1% Devil’s eye 750 gp BVD 92
-- 1% 1% Enhance familiar 750 gp CA 105
-- 1% 1% Fire wings 750 gp CA 107
-- 1% 1% Hamatula barbs 750 gp PH 98
-- 1% 1% Light of venya 750 gp PH 100
-- 1% 1% Mantle of chaos 750 gp PH 100
-- 1% 1% Mantle of evil 750 gp PH 100
-- 1% 1% Mantle of good 750 gp PH 100
-- 1% 1% Mantle of law 750 gp PH 101
-- 3% 3% Nezram’s amethyst aura 750 gp FRLE 32
-- 1% 1% Planar tolerance (specific plane) 750 gp PH 103
-- 1% 1% Protection from negative energy 750 gp PH 104
-- 1% 1% Protection from positive energy 750 gp PH 104
-- 1% 1% Repair serious damage 750 gp CA 120
-- 1% 1% Scales of the sealord 750 gp STRM 121
-- 3% 3% Skull watch [O] 750 gp PGTF 111
-- 1% 1% Soul of the waste 750 gp SAND 121
-- 3% 3% Spiderskin 750 gp FRUD 61
-- 3% 3% Sticks and stones [O] 750 gp FRSS 49
-- 3% 3% Tremorsense 750 gp FRUD 62
-- 1% 1% Thornskin 750 gp CA 127
-- 1% 1% Mage armor, greater 775 gp CA 114
-- 3% 3% Improved mage armor 850 gp FRUE 51
-- 3% 3% Trobriand’s crystalbrittle [O] 850 gp FRWA 157
-- -- 3% Animate Dead [O] 1,550 gp FRMF 145
this would be much easier if it were handled by a database. I have experience designing databases but not connecting them to webpages. Much easier to have something where you could enter ECL and have it spit out random treasure.
Granted I very rarely use 'random' treasure in my games.
My dungeon master has some really good tables, but I didn't get a good look at them, I just got a quick glance.
Here's something that I've been working on:
http://216.228.168.97:8080/dnd_wiki/treasure.php
Only does gems and coins right now, working on everything else. Far from perfect, I've still got some things to fix and improve. (If you experience any slowness, I'm sorry - it's a fixer-upper box that I use for fun projects.)
Wow.
This has some real potential. Good luck. I can't wait until you get to the part where you do magic items.
Yeah, this is what I'm working on right now. Trying to classify objects into whether it's a minor/medium/major magic item. It seems that it's done by GP value, but I'm guessing at this point.
Anyway, it's a fun weekend/eveing project. :-D
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Well, one of the things I do is database programming ... ;>
Picking a magic item off a list is simple programming. Many varieties of subtables or conditions is not so simple. I've been building a treasure database in Lantica's Sesame 1.2, and I've got a gem generator down pat. Now I'm working on potions...
But seriously, I've found compiling 'master tables' to work with is simpler than programming up something. I can roll up 1,000 treasure lists faster than I can program something to automate it ...
Soooo ... Erik/James ... any interest in a master table article for Dungeon, as part of the DM's Toolbox? ;>
Okay, I've made some updates to my project:
http://72.0.164.177:8080/dnd_wiki/treasure.php
Haven't gotten EVERYTHING from the DMG in there yet, as there's some custom programming that I want to do. Should you see a blank line, or something that says "Wand of" and nothing after it, there's an example. The page should load a lot faster, as well.
What's been done:
Gems! Mundane Items! Art! Magic Weapons! Magic Armor & Shields!
What needs to be improved:
Art:
I have to find my "new art stuff" tables from Tome of Trouble. There's a LOT of repetition in the art generator.
Potions & Oils:
Eventually I want this to look at every 3rd-lvl or less spell and look at it as a potential potion. Right now, it just looks at the standard DMG list.
Scrolls:
pretty much limited to what I have in my DB - some stuff from Book of Eldritch Might, various internet stuff. Will be putting in the standard Player's Handbook Stuff later. Still some work to do on the scroll generation, such as caster level, limiting it to a certain type (Cleric, Druid, etc).
Wands:
Well, they ain't in there yet. :-D Going to do this the same way I want to do the potions - look at all the applicable spells in the db and whammo! Wand o' choice.
What Needs to be Done:
Staves
Wondrous Items
Cursed Items (heh...)
Standard magical effects (glows, etc)
Intelligent Items
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I write this email hesitantly as I am sure that I will get many responses based on the above emails.
I have created a scroll generator, a magic item generator, and an art/gem generator. All of these are in an excel sheet format.
I was frustrated because I wanted to include any and all the unique and new magic items, spells and abilities that came from other books. Wands and potions were also frustrating to me because I felt that there could be even more potions than were in the DMG. I also felt that the "weight" of the items wasn't fair. Most things in the DMG were "weighted" the same.
My generators include information from most of the 3.5 books. This includes all the Complete Series, Libris Mortis, the Draconimicon, the Expanded Psionics Handbook (if you choose), the Epic Level Handbook (again if you choose), most of the Forgotten Realms series including Shining South, Magic of Faerun, Player's Guide to Faerun, etc. I also included things that made sense to me (a ring of Strength +2 for instance).
I am hesitant to shoot this off for two reasons. 1) I really don't have a lot of time to devote to emailing these documents to every DM in the country, and 2) These are some really nice sheets that I have worked hard on to create and it has taken me the better part of the past year to complete them.
With that being said, I know how frustrated I was when I tried finding a generator to suite my needs. If you would like to give any of these generators a try, you may email me at moffrimmer (at) viafamily.com. Include "Generators" in the subject line and in the body let me know what you are interested in. I do not always check my email often, but I will attempt to do so for the next week or two consistently -- basically, if I don't respond right away, it is really because I am fairly busy.
Anything to make the DM's job easier.
Bill
So I choose to ask Bill about his Magic Item Table and after the patience of a saint on his part (he must have tried to send to me 5 times at 2 different email adresses) I finally got these and started playing around with them. They are absolutely awsome. I did not know you could do this sort of thing with Excel really.
This is some of the most exceptional work I have seen - not only is it functional but it actually looks good on top of that. Really Bill needs to get this thing up on a website so that the community in general can pay homage to its brilliance and Bill can bask in the glory of some very well deserved recognition.