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Hi there. First time poster, long-time gamer, here. I've been running D&D since my teens in the 80s, but just recently I've gotten into the world of Greyhawk as opposed to writing up my own worlds. Players seem to prefer having a handle on the world, and since Greyhawk was the core world for 3.5 (not for long, from what I hear), I chose it.
A few sources have gotten me in trouble, recently though. I'm running an adventure in the Pomarj, and I've just come across the map at the Ulek triad site:
http://www.thepou.net/images/map_PoU_smallhex.jpg
It has more detail than the map that Dungeon put out, and both have more detail than the one that came with the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer. Point is that there is this town of Fenrill and an unnamed river that I had not figured on before I located my town of Danube and a river not far east of it. I've worked out the whole region and some plot elements have already been given to players that lead them to expect its location, but it bothers me that the town that I came up with is so close to this other town for which I have no detail.
So, what is known of Fenrill and what has happened to it in the last 10 years or so? Is there a decent reference for the town outside of out-of-print materials?
Thanks!
Hi there. First time poster, long-time gamer, here. I've been running D&D since my teens in the 80s, but just recently I've gotten into the world of Greyhawk as opposed to writing up my own worlds. Players seem to prefer having a handle on the world, and since Greyhawk was the core world for 3.5 (not for long, from what I hear), I chose it.
A few sources have gotten me in trouble, recently though. I'm running an adventure in the Pomarj, and I've just come across the map at the Ulek triad site:
http://www.thepou.net/images/map_PoU_smallhex.jpg
It has more detail than the map that Dungeon put out, and both have more detail than the one that came with the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer. Point is that there is this town of Fenrill and an unnamed river that I had not figured on before I located my town of Danube and a river not far east of it. I've worked out the whole region and some plot elements have already been given to players that lead them to expect its location, but it bothers me that the town that I came up with is so close to this other town for which I have no detail.
So, what is known of Fenrill and what has happened to it in the last 10 years or so? Is there a decent reference for the town outside of out-of-print materials?
Thanks!
Hey ajs! Do you happen to be running parts of the "Slavers" adventure booklet? If not, it has some great material about the Pomarj and map of the peninsula on pg. 87. The map I'm looking at has a river that forks into 2 from Woolly Bay. And there are two Fenrills. One is right on the coast opposite Highport called Lost Fenrill. The other is further inland near the Suss Forest. But the rivers are unnamed.
Pending someone actually coming up with the correct name, I think you could do far worse than simply calling it the Fenrill River.
There is a road from Highport to Kalen Lekos paved in bricks called the Slave Road. It would have to cross the river at some point, so you could easily place your town at the fork in the river complete with a large fairy for the Pomarji humanoids to cross and continue deeper into the Drachensgrab Hills via the Slave Road.
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http://www.thepou.net/images/map_PoU_smallhex.jpgIt has more detail than the map that Dungeon put out, and both have more detail than the one that came with the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer. Point is that there is this town of Fenrill and an unnamed river that I had not figured on before I located my town of Danube and a river not far east of it. I've worked out the whole region and some plot elements have already been given to players that lead them to expect its location, but it bothers me that the town that I came up with is so close to this other town for which I have no detail.
So, what is known of Fenrill and what has happened to it in the last 10 years or so? Is there a decent reference for the town outside of out-of-print materials?
Hey ajs! Do you happen to be running parts of the "Slavers"
Nope. I'm running a home-grown campaign set in Verbobonc, and this is the group's first forray into the Pomarj. What version of the slavers module are you referfing to? I think there was one in the 80s and then a follow-up or re-write in the 90s, but I've never read either one. I might go pick it up from a local shop that has lots of old modules if I'm sure which one is best.
"The map I'm looking at has a river that forks into 2 from Woolly Bay. And there are two Fenrills."
Yeah, that's pretty much the layout on the map I linked to above. That river is about 30 miles from Highport, so I could get away with saying that that is between Highport and Danube. I just want to make sure that that makes sense. On the newer maps, there's a sort of depression about 30 to 50 miles east of Highport, and I'm calling that "Carpenter's Cove" for lack of a better name (and because it plays well into some plot). Danube would be another 20 or so miles ease of that cove. Overall I think I'm not trashing any history, but I just wanted to be extra cautious.
"Pending someone actually coming up with the correct name, I think you could do far worse than simply calling it the Fenrill River."
That makes fine sense. It and my Dark River probably never get near each other. I haven't yet decided if there's anything interesting at the head of the Dark, but that probably won't play into my game anyway. Everything happens in the Dark River Swamp, Danube and to the east... well, and in Mechanus, but that's another story :)
"There is a road from Highport to Kalen Lekos paved in bricks called the Slave Road."
Hmmm... that could be problematic if it's in the wrong spot. The big thing is that I don't want to end up going back to this place later to run something that's adapted from a module and have to say, "oh, and that little dirt road was really a brick-paved slaver route." That just makes it sound like I don't know what's going on, and while that's true, I like to admit as little as possible :)
ajs, the book is called "Slavers" TSR11621. It's 2nd ed. and was printed in 2000. But the info in there is still quite useable since it's not overflowing with game stats, though its fun to see the words "THAC0" all over the place :).
Any online bookseller like Amazon.com should have it.
Good luck with your campaign. Hope I helped.
AJS, you have gotten some good advice here, outside of that combined module"Slavers" there was almost no material published on that area. Your players will never know how much was gospel and how much was inspiration, Good Luck!
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AJS, you have gotten some good advice here, outside of that combined module"Slavers" there was almost no material published on that area. Your players will never know how much was gospel and how much was inspiration, Good Luck!
The town might be a Triad created town for the LG campaign. You might just ditch it or adapt it to your game. FYI there's a good Triad created map for Verbobonc too as well as Greyhawk towns from Vecna Lives for instance, but the quality of the map is really good, IMHO.
Mike
I skimmed through my copy of "Slavers". As has been previously mentioned, there is a chapter dedicated to the Pomarj region. The book's plot mainly focuses on the Cult of the Earth Dragon, which has a secret base in the center of the Drachensgrab Mtns.
Fenrill, Lost Fenrill, and the "unnamed river", are all marked on a simple B&W map of the Pomarj penninsula (the map doesn't have much more detail than your Ulek triad map). But none of those 3 items are even mentioned in the text of the Slavers book. I couldn't find any mention of them in any other sources either, so they probably have no specific significance. You should feel totally free to manipulate these locations to fit your campaign. At the time period of the Slavers campaign, many of the towns & villages in the Pomarj/WildCoast region have been destroyed by orcs and other humanoids.