LazarX wrote:
wrenzephyr2 wrote:
Can I cast Evolution Surge and Greater Evolution Surge on my eidolon at the same time? They are different spells and they would be giving different evolutions. I've been playing my Summoner into his 11th level and I want to know if I haven't been tapping into his full potential.
I also understand Summoners are a broken, difficult class to play (as this is my first Pathfinder game I'm learning all too well this was a trial by fire) and I just want to make sure I know all I can about them.
You can't stack them to get one super big evolution, You have to use them for separate ones entirely.
I also require that if you're going to use those spells at my table, if you have to spend 5 minutes calculating your eidolon, you're passing your turn. It's a good idea to prepare eidolon sheets with these abilities already in effect.
How could you be casting these spells if this was your first Pathfinder game? I would definitely not be allowing this class to a new player on his first game, and definitely not in a high level slot insertion of a newbie player.
The only thing worse than this class attached to a power gamer, is this class attached to a total ingenue.
Oh no, we've been playing for nearly a year to get this level. And jeez what a year. I don't think I've ever done as much external research for anything as much as I have for this class. I have become pretty solid with my characters, choosing what made sense over how to break my eidolon. I keep up with our veteran players working as mostly a buffer and damage dealer. I know how easy it is to break Eidolons and have made accidental bombs out of my characters, but we are a story heavy group and I try to always keep that in mind when choosing Lili's (my eidolon) evolutions.
As for the worry on what evolutions I'd take, there are no worries there. I have filled a notebook with stats, numbers, math, and scores based on various builds. When we level, 9/10 I'll already have my eidolon setup in advance. If this stacking spells works, then I'll have a list of evolutions I'd want from each one and be able to pick them out based on situation. For instance, were about to go up against a Lightning and Paralysis loving Mohrg, so I'm tossing on her the Celestial Appearance 2nd stage evolution for the bonuses she would get from it.
So fear not, I know the class very well and, other than this question, I feel pretty good about my knowledge of it (not including archetypes, still reading). Though sadly I don't think I'll ever join PFS. Not only is my best class sort of taboo, if I don't min/max or power play it (reason for it being taboo) they're actually rather mediocre classes.