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Or if you'd rather stick with shadow conjuration: How about "shaping" a quasi-real erinyes and having it use unholy blight on someone?

my idea is more for evil casters trying to feign being good. if you summon a celestial, the initial implication would be you are good or neutral. and if someone doesnt see through the illusion they have no reason to believe its anything besides summon monster.

not saying a sure fire thing but i would hope it give a circumstance bonus at least

i dont know how to quote the book but it says specifically that summons with * next to it are summoned as a celestial if good or fiendish if evil and then you can choose if your neutral. so if a sorcerer is good an eagle would have to use the celestial template. its at the bottem of any summon monster table.

so shadow conjuration says it can mimic any sorcerer conjuration (summoning) spells but would it be forced to match the alignment of said spells? like an evil character using a shadow to create a celestial eagle?

obviously if someone flat out knows your evil they'd automatically win the saving throw but if they dont know you?