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thorneldrich wrote:
I just purchased the two new releases (Qadira & Healer's handbook) so I know the feeling. Acts like the secure server is having connectivity problems. Who slue of possible issues can cause that. Annoying but hopefully they are working on it.

& now I just got to my downloads & got both. Really looks like they are working to get the issue resolved. Probably doesn't help that all of us are trying to access the secure server either lol...


I just purchased the two new releases (Qadira & Healer's handbook) so I know the feeling. Acts like the secure server is having connectivity problems. Who slue of possible issues can cause that. Annoying but hopefully they are working on it.


First time I've ever had anything remotely like this happen here Solidus, & I've been using Paizo.com for as long as the site's been active. Had general server crashes, had a couple uber-busy traffic overloads, but never anything like this....

They say patience is a virtue, guess I need to learn it too lol...


Is this still broken because I am having the same issues, any attempt to get to my account or my downloads redirect to the front page. It's like the https://secure.pazio.com is offline or something. Can get to my wishlist but thats it. I made a purchase of two pdfs (the new Healer's book & the new Qadira sourcebook), gotten the confirmation that you guys took the money from my account but now I can not access the page to download them.

Come on... If this has been happening since around the 18th you guys should have gotten around to fixing this (it's the 25th for goodness sake).


It clearly states the gaining of followers, mods to the leadership score, & the stacking of follower counts.

What it does not address is if the Crusader ability grants a cohort (as Leadership does). The description of the ability says to treat Crusader as the leadership feat. Just a niggling question but trying to head off any questions about it from players down the road.


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KtA wrote:
thorneldrich wrote:
One thing you are overlooking is the deeply ingrained caste system. This sort of social structure is a self-reinforcing design. Both the God-Vessel & the Augmented are smaller & by cultural/caste mandate unable to wed within their own castes. The may only marry a Pure Ones caste member. This places the Pure Ones in the control seat. Neither caste can continue without the Pure Ones co-operation.

Yeah, but I kind of think that setup would end up diluting the whole idea of the castes really fast.

Also, one would think Augmented would have more in common with other Augmented, etc.

I can sort of see it lasting once established, in a really tradition bound society, but why would it be set up that way in the first place?
Presumably there were no Augmented at one time, so the current caste system must have developed from something else...

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I realize that a caste social system is a bit alien to most American & Western European mentalities. Look at the Indian sub-continent for an ingrained caste system. To marry outside ones caste is to become a social, cultural, & familial exile. Now compound that pressure by an entire planetary society utilizing that caste/value system.

And that might well have worked ... up till now. But now that one nation (Kashak) has broken the mold, I'd expect it to spread fast.

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The are interconnected in their cultural beliefs & the necessities of continued racial survival.

But I don't see how a system based on enshrining really inefficient labor-intensive low-tech means of food production helps them survive.

I mean, a system like that would certainly help some grassland/hedge species that can live in disturbed areas (ones that are declining on Earth now with huge monocultures) but...

And Verces has very limited arable land area so there should be a huge push for efficient farming. The whole 'ring' area would likely be totally managed, even the 'natural' areas, at their tech level.

Not all cultures believe technology = better. Many could feel that technology introduces more problems then it solves.

For example: Where do you build the facilities to manufacture the technological equipment to improve the farm-production? You have extremely limited space that is usable, you have no space for any waste byproducts. Dumping it on either the hot or the cold zones will just result in polluting the limited atmosphere (which the more "primitive" means of farming actually helps maintain & even increase.

Also as to the caste system evolving to meet the introduction of the Augmented is actually very likely. Reading the currently available history of the planet shows that the people seem to be less inclined to violence then humanity in general.

The caste system also could act as a means of birth control on a planetary scale, since pairing are not randomly occurring, & thus birth numbers are fairly constant & helps keep the population from exceeding the limited natural resources. The Augmented actually help control the population problem since then are more likely to meet early deaths (since the take more risks then say the Pure or the God-Vessel). Also the most rebellious would also find the Augmented caste more (more self-expressive, greater options for personal choice, etc...) appealing & thus are more likely to either;
a: Realize a good thing when they see it (i.e. their own culture), having been exposed to other "alien" cultures that are no where near as peaceful or advanced, or
b: Remove themselves from the population via early death or by emigration to other worlds, or
c: Lose their rebellious traits as they aged & gained a greater understanding & acceptance of their own culture.


Liz Courts wrote:
Kudaku wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
FallenDabus wrote:
It's a server issue I believe. The unavailable is just a place holder while they sort it out.
Incorrect. The PDF release date for our subscriptions is generally the last Wednesday of the month—this PDF will be available on June 25th (this Wednesday).
Would it be possible to change the note from "unavailable" to "PDF will be released on June 25th (or whatever)"? I was wondering what "unavailable" meant earlier myself, and I see this question pop up frequently.

It is not currently possible to do so in an efficient manner at this time (otherwise, I would have done it already). The method that was being used previously to display that information is no longer valid with a recent code update, and I don't have an ETA on when that information will be displayed again.

Kudaku wrote:
It would also be awesome to have a pre-purchase option for PDFs, but that's a different kettle of fish.
It is, but there are some technological hurdles to overcome, as well as a few legal/financial considerations to keep in mind.

You might want to place a Message on the front page with the info on the "PDF:Unavailable" message. Many folks I know went into a panic thinking that Paizo was no longer going to sell PDFs for their books. Folks like myself & many others rely on PDFs for gaming (since I don't have a book-mobile to haul my collection to each game). Just a thought.


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One thing you are overlooking is the deeply ingrained caste system. This sort of social structure is a self-reinforcing design. Both the God-Vessel & the Augmented are smaller & by cultural/caste mandate unable to wed within their own castes. The may only marry a Pure Ones caste member. This places the Pure Ones in the control seat. Neither caste can continue without the Pure Ones co-operation.

I realize that a caste social system is a bit alien to most American & Western European mentalities. Look at the Indian sub-continent for an ingrained caste system. To marry outside ones caste is to become a social, cultural, & familial exile. Now compound that pressure by an entire planetary society utilizing that caste/value system. Worse yet, due to your actions all your offspring are also exiled. In some caste systems this also means almost certain death at your own family's hands (honor killing is some cultures is a real-world example).

Societal pressure & cultural dogma can & do enforce what no army could.

Look at Feudal Japan or even Dynastic China. Their caste/social systems lasted for most of their existence. The honor (or social perception) of ones place was more important then individual freedoms or even the life of an individual. It is only due to external intervention/interaction that these systems finally fell out of use. Verces has never had radically different cultural development. The are interconnected in their cultural beliefs & the necessities of continued racial survival.


Thank you.


Have they ever updated this Guide to fix the various errata & have they every released a map of the vale that wasn't incorrect/incomplete?


It is good to see not every RPG creator is blindly following WotC's D&D death-spiral. WotC (& it's parent corp) are in it for pure profit & target the fast money (but low long-term returns) market. I agree with others on the forced nature of the character roles in this farce called 4th Edition.

With the death of one of the creators of the D&D universe itself, WotC seems determined to obliterate the RPG genre in favor of the Video-Game-on-Paper market. If you want a video game, buy a console, if you want continuing quality RPG games, support companies like Paizo who still remember what RPG stands for, ROLE PLAYING game, not mindless drone following predetermined outcomes with the illusion of choice.

Paizo has just ensured my patronage for the long term. The game itself looks good as it stands & the works of Paizo (both Pathfinder & Game Mastery)shine in an ever dwindling genre. Too many companies have the "Newer is Better" attitude, forgetting that older rules sets are, in the majority, stable & favored.

...and for those folks who will nay-say my comments as "not knowing what he is talking about", I have played RPG (D&D in particular) for almost 30 years. I have seen the genre blossom & grow only to be hit again & again by attempts to either destroy it (the early religious anti-RPG backlash of the late 70s) & the more resent years of buyouts/bankruptcies that threaten to erase a vibrant & powers forbid, THINKING/CREATIVITY inspiring genre.

In a world of innane video games & criminal-activity inspired video games, RPG stands alone as the only genre that actually requires the use of the human mind for something other then an eye-hand coordination system.