Seoni

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Darrell Impey UK wrote:
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I LOVE hardcover adventures! So I'm a big fan of the AP changes!

Maybe I'm over looking it, but I'm assuming our Adventure Path subscriptions carry over to this new format as well and don't need anything done on our end to do so?

I asked the same question further up the thread, and was told "yes".

Thanks for the reply! I was digging and couldn't find the answer haha!


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I LOVE hardcover adventures! So I'm a big fan of the AP changes!

Maybe I'm over looking it, but I'm assuming our Adventure Path subscriptions carry over to this new format as well and don't need anything done on our end to do so?


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This is absolutely wonderful! I hope to run this in the future for my long-time gaming group. I do have a question though. I'm having a hard time locating the points where in the adventure and when mythic rules apply and how they are handled in the conversion. Could you point me in the right direction?


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I’ve placed a handful of orders to geek grind but my last order was placed in July. I have yet to receive it. My first attempt at bringing this to their attention resulted in one of the founders of the company stating a replacement shipment would be sent with a vague excuse as to the usps not updating. Which is funny seeing as their own site says the order is unfulfilled. I’ve reached out three other times with zero response concerning my order and it still shows unfilulfilled.

Sadly, this doesn’t look good. Me and my group love pathfinder and love coffee and have been a consistent customer of theirs for a while now. But this last order may have soured my experience beyond redemption.

Maybe Paizo should partner with a different company in the future…


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Mergy wrote:
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I guess I’m not sure what people are wanting concerning this. Do we expect them to just say “yes, we are transphobic.” Or, “no, we are not transphobic?”

You know what? One of those would have been better than what Jeff wrote.

I didn't burn anything down, I'm just asking why a company known for inclusivity has responded to many allegations, just not the ones about transphobia. Me pointing to the fire that someone else set is not the same as burning something down.

Hi, I'm a trans person. When I see stuff like this, it makes me feel like a company doesn't see me as a person. I don't do business with companies like that unless I am required to, and I do not need to give Paizo another cent of my time or another good word: I can't foresee that changing without at least a response to this nonsense.

“From the day the company opened back in 2002 all the way to the present, POC and LGBTQIA+ contributors and staff have been a critical part of our creative and business operations, and our company has been at the forefront of these issues in the work we publish and the values we espouse.”

This is as good as it’s going to get. I’m not sure what else could be said. Expecting something more from a business statement is probably pretty close to expecting a brick wall to fall over if you blow on it.


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Mergy wrote:
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All of that is poisoned now, if what Crystal said is true.
The word “IF” is what I’d focus on here.

We agree there. So I was stating how immensely dissatisfied I am with the fact that all responses thus far have completely ignored allegations about transphobic policies in the company.

You are correct that this private company owes no one anything, and all of the previously loyal customers currently "attacking" Paizo's management about this also do not owe this private company any support or money, especially if it turns out that we were duped about what kind of people run the company.

I guess I’m not sure what people are wanting concerning this. Do we expect them to just say “yes, we are transphobic.” Or, “no, we are not transphobic?”

I mean just 48 hours ago they were the company that supported these things more than most. Are just a few accusations all it takes for everyone to throw all that good will out of the window? Even if somehow it was proven that there is a person or group of people that are transphobic in the company is that enough to burn the whole thing down? And have it collapse in on even the champions still inside?

This is a company full of people and people aren’t perfect. When was the last time you worked somewhere where everyone was totally happy with the job and everyone they answered to? Why would Paizo be any different? This is why issues like this should be left in the private side of the business and those that take it to the public eye are looked at as unprofessional by me.


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I think this is a prime example as to why some companies do not have such close an open relationships with their customer base. Sure, it’s one of the reasons why I think Paizo is so cool but all it takes is some tweets and then the customer base turns on you like a pack of rabid and wild dogs.


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Haha it seems like everybody just wants Jeff to admit to the accusations regardless of whether they are true or not. News flash everyone….the internet is not a court of law.

The demands for people to “step down” are particular entertaining to me.

Sure wish someone would jump on a forum and demand my boss to quit. I’m sure that would go real far…


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I actually think the art is a giant step up from the 1E crb. I'm in love with it. Especially that image of Seoni and some drow (i think) on a rope descending into a treasure hoard!


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If a subscriber was to preorder 2E products and choose to pick them up at Gen Con, will they be charged at check out on the site or when they pickup the product at the con?


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I like this design overall. There is nothing wrong with it. However, I will miss the old design. It's obvious this was done for a pretty specific reason, which is sad to me. She also looks far younger in her 2E look compared to her 1E face. That and the overall design of most of the 2E iconics are extremely "busy," especially in this case. There are so many things strapped to her and such it's hard to focus in or be drawn to anything in particular. Sometimes less is more in my honest opinion. But to each their own. Seoni will always be my favorite and not just because of her visual appeal. Great job Wayne!


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I have qualms with the idea that just because you are part of a specific race then that automatically makes you evil or even good for that matter. Sure in game terms as a general concept as a description i understand but as a player you are the exception, within reason of course. We would never have gotten to meet characters like Drizzt if a race automatically determined your moral compass.

Bring on the Goblins! I look forward to the amazing flavor they can add to my game....not that they weren't an option to play as in 1E...

Players and the Gm make the game not the mechanics.


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Having pickup at Gencon would be amazing and way less stressful.


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Yaaaaaaasssss! I think the design Wayne Reynolds expounded on above makes complete sense! I'm also super glad he didn't cover her abs up. Super excited to see my favorite iconic....SEONI!


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Yaaaaaaaaasssssss! Welcome to the core races/classes Fumbus!


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2E's release would be a perfect time to relaunch tales and reflect in the fiction the changes Golarion has seen.

I would LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE more books by Dave Gross in the Radovan and the Count Series.

I would pickup Chris Jackson's books currently being kept in the dark in a heart beat.

And more of Tim Pratt's Liars series would be a must.

Just my two copper though.


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WOW. US order here and still no delivery of my order today...I could have bought it all a dozen times over at local retailers...

Hopefully for future orders we can be informed on what delivery service Paizo plans to use because i honestly don't think i'll directly order if it is going through Amazon again...Highly disappointing.

That being said. Thanks for all the clarity and for informing all of us on what is going on. Hopefully you can get Amazon to give a lot back to you guys to make up for this GIGANTIC FAIL.


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Still no books. I def blame Amazon for this but seeing as how i struggled with who to order this from in order to better guarantee a shipment on the release date and ultimately ended up ordering straight from the source....i think i might stick with a retailer in the future from now on seeing how much i payed for shipping on this order...

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I definitely took a step back from this thread when I realized that convincing someone on the other side of the fence just isn’t going to happen. Stupid me. It is the internet after all! It’s just an odd thing to be so upset about in my opinion. Goblins sound fun. That is what’ me and my players are here for. It has also been proven time and time on this thread that the lore is in tact so I still don’t see that particular issue some are having.

The most interesting part about all of this is seeing all of the different “philosophies” to table top gaming and how each person views how the game is to be ran. The wide variety of those differences are a testimony to the power of a game ran by imagination. I absolutely love paizo and their products! Can’t wait to try the playtest.....and play a goblin...

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MerlinCross wrote:
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Goblins at a society game aren't going to effect it because the same rules of cooperation apply to all races them included
Save for Goblins, to by proxy Gnome, have Shinanagins as part of their race description basically.
Another way to put it is "evil characters are not allowed in the society" and thus Goblins in society play obviously shows that there are those that are not evil...

"I'm not evil, I'm CN.". "I'm a Paladin, it makes sense for me to stonewall my team due to it being unlawful. Oh but I can totally judge Dredd people cause I'm a Paladin." "I'm sorry I lit the Inn on fire guys, I was just playing with my fire bombs. Why are you hating me, I'm a goblin it's what we do"

Don't need to be evil to disrupt games and handing them another race with a built in reason to cause problems, well..

Sounds like a problem with your player to me...

I can behave that way regardless of race...

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Correct me if i'm mistaken but the vast majority of Golarian has not been explored. We have mainly had adventures centered around the Inner Sea Region with the exception of Tian Xing...

Who is to say that there aren't Goblins from elsewhere in the world that are different?

Aside from that my theory is that we have a lot of people not wanting to use their imaginations in a game of imagination. I can think of a million and one ways a player can be a Goblin even in 1E. In my games players are exceptions to the norm, not simple reconstructions of the race description in a book. Now that doesn't mean that goblin characters should hinder the progress of the game and story just because they are a goblin and "i'm just playing my race." But if that does happen then it is a player issue and not a "lore" issue. That is when I would address and help the player find other means of achieving that gobliny flavor and still be a contributing member to a team oriented game.

Saying that player Goblins are or should be the stereotypical example of their race entry is a line of thought I do not enjoy. That is one of the reasons i don't enjoy 5E. Characters, for the most part, feel like stereotypes in that game. Nothing wrong with that but there is a reason why I personally never made the jump to the game. Pathfinder has always given me tools to create fun, original, and unique characters as well as allow me to be the stereotype.

As for me and my players we are ecstatic about the opportunity to play goblins....even if players have been playing goblins for many years now in 1E. I guess this is just a weird thing for so many to be THAT upset about in my opinion. But to each their own i suppose.

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No offense but I'm here for "fantasy" NOT "realism"....