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What do people think about using a modified Whispering Lore spell that instead imparts some benefit against demons or some such thing? Under/Over powered?


Thanks everyone! I think what I am going to have to do is use it judiciously but talk with my party next time we meet and let them know that I will often open with some type of AOE if I have the opportunity. We should be able to figure out ways for it to work out even more to our advantage.


Thanks everyone! I think what I am going to have to do is use it judiciously but talk with my party next time we meet and let them know that I will often open with some type of AOE if I have the opportunity. We should be able to figure out ways for it to work out even more to our advantage.


Yup I did. In fact I'm going Grenadier archetype. The problem there is that they cannot leave their square (assuming they are in melee with my target/s) without exposing themselves to the AOE.


Alright so I'm pretty new to Pathfinder and we are level 6 in a campaign right now. The problem I am having is that I took several AOE discoveries (smoke, stink) but I am never able to use them because my party members are in melee. How can I function as crowd control without interfering with my party or harming them?

Note: I originally posted this in the wrong place. Sorry for that.


Alright so I'm pretty new to Pathfinder and we are level 6 in a campaign right now. The problem I am having is that I took several AOE discoveries (smoke, stink) but I am never able to use them because my party members are in melee. How can I function as crowd control without interfering with my party or harming them?