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Aren't there certain scenarios or modules that can be replayed multiple times and still receive credit? I believe I heard this mentioned somewhere...

All Tier 1 scenarios and Tier 1-2 sanctioned modules can be replayed by 1st level characters for credit. There's also something called evergreen scenarios, though I'm not sure what these are, but they are apparently allow unlimited replay.

Do we now tell the person who elected to play for no credit rather than GM that they should leave the table, since they're no longer required to make it legal?

Loophole?

Start a game with the person that wants to replay being the fourth making the table legal. Then after the game starts, let the others join in to increase the size to 6. To fix, you'd either need (to be obligated) to kick the fourth out after they started playing since he's not there to make it legal, or block the newcomers because you're on to them, trying to sneak their friend in to being able to play Pathfinder!

I think the restrictions should be removed. Unlimited replay of everything and having it all count for gold/PP/etc. What is the point of the restriction in the first place? After playing a scenario, sometimes I think I want to play it again with a new character and try going about it a different way. If everyone involved wants to play, what harm does it do to the society to have it count?

Moreover it disproportionately hurts the player base that plays frequently (more than twice a month) more than anyone else. Even if this player base also GMs frequently, playing once a week will run them out of scenarios very rapidly. This seems more like it hurts more than it helps, by punishing the real core.

You'll run out of open games long before you run out of scenarios. If you've completed half the scenarios, then half the games out there are ones you can't join. In a perfect world, you have only one GM and he has purchased the entire library of all PFS scenarios, and you only play with the exact same players each week. In an imperfect world, you play the odds and hope the GM isn't running one of the 50% of scenarios you've already played. Make a new friend and want to play PFS with his game group? If you've completed 50% of the scenarios, there's a 50% chance the one they're playing is one you can't.

The replaying rule seems to actually hurt the idea of PFS: taking your character to any table. Because playing more means taking your character to any table makes it less likely you'll even be able to play. The same is true for GMs. The rule means PFS paradoxically works best when you have the same GM and same group of people each week.

And worse, when you consider it on whole, it means the more people play PFS, the less legal matchups even exist.

It is clearly not encouraged since you can play with 3 players and a Generic NPC.

The rules seem to encourage it to me: "GMs have the right to deny players the opportunity to replay a scenario for any reason, but all GMs are encouraged to be as flexible as possible when replay is the only option that allows them to seat the minimum legal number of players at a game table."

There is also the oddity of :

OP Guide wrote:

A player replaying a scenario in order for the table to reach the minimum table size should (in this instance only) be given a Chronicle for the scenario

Which means if we allow people to replay for no credit in cases where we don't need their presence, we don't give them chronicle sheets. How do we track their notes, conditions gained etc?

This is basically my question. It says you only get a Chronicle if you're making the table legal, which means you don't get a Chronicle otherwise. Are you only allowed to play with pre-gen characters in this circumstance since you won't be receiving a Chronicle Sheet? If you can use your own PFS character, then how can you track expendables, is your character risking death, and does the GM report your PFS ID on his sheets having the event track with your Character? It doesn't make sense.

@Pirate Rob I do think you can play even if you're not making the table legal, because the Rule says, "A player replaying a scenario in order for the table to reach the minimum table size should (in this instance only) be given a Chronicle for the scenario [...]". If you only ever could replay scenarios to make the table legal, then the Rules wouldn't specify "in this instance only". Or at least I don't think they would...

In any case, the sentence "If you have already played a scenario and wish to replay it for any reason, you must inform the GM that you have already played the scenario." should be changed to read "If you are replaying a scenario, you must inform the GM that you have already played the scenario." The current sentence is verbose and doesn't clarify anything and the change is more concise. The word minimum is misspelled "minium" on the page.

brock, no the other one... wrote:

You can replay a scenario, if the GM allows you to. If the table would already have been legal, you receive nothing. If you make the table legal by playing, you receive a chronicle for zero everything, the sole purpose of which is to show that it was a legal table and for you to mark off consumables

in order to meet the minimum legal table size - seems to indicate that you can't just do this for fun.

The rule says (my addition in brackets, and emphasis added): "You are free to replay a scenario in order to meet the minimum legal table size (see Chapter 7), but once you have reached the limit [of 1 player Chronicle and 1 GM Chronicle for the same scenario], you do not earn any additional rewards beyond having a good time."

You can replay scenarios for fun.

The rules section for Replaying Scenarios is the most confusing in the entire guide. Even more confusing than the discussion of gear purchases. One rule from the gear purchasing section states, "A character’s Fame score determines the maximum gp value of any items she can purchase from her faction, as detailed in Table 5–3 below." I took this to refer to special faction items purchased from the faction, but it actually means all items.

Sorry for the slightly old post, but what happens to your items/expendables if you are replaying a scenario with a table that was already legal and not receiving a Chronicle Sheet? Is your character still risking death by replaying? Does the GM still mark your PFS ID for the Event for your Character, despite not receiving a Chronicle Sheet?