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A summoner can only use simple weapons. you will be taking a -4 to use the longbow and rapier since they are martial weapons.


does that mean a 6th level lion shaman can wildshape into a huge tiger.


looking at nature warden it looks like i could do 7 levels of ranger with no druid levels and go into nature warden


they do at up to a lot of feats though. and my summoner needs the feats for melee


they were interesting but my gm told me i had to play the apg version of the summoner.


thanks Nelson, that helps me out a lot. i was a bit confused before.


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questing about the nature warden, it says "Nature wardens are usually druids or ranger/druids." but in requirements it has favored terrain class feature needed. how does a full druid get favored terrain class feature. Is it in one of the new alt druid clsses.


hey Jason, any rule clarification on this one.


I Agree


my main problem with this is my GM will now rush all creatures at the summoner and never fight the Eidolon. once the summoner goes unconscious poof Eidolon is gone for rest of fight. in our group the eidolon is the fighter we don't have a fighter so when we rest and get ambushed, we will not have the eidolon"fighter" for that fight.


roll a different class summoner is dead.

If the summoner is unconscious, asleep, or killed, his eidolon is immediately banished.

think about every time you sleep, or go unconscious the party will lose a 99% of what a summoner is. and it will take 1 minute to bring him back.