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OK I've heard all what you said on 15 points buy, the balance, the challenge, how it is OP to have a 25 PB character.

Let's face the reality of figures :
I want to have a fighter in heavy armor making manoeuvers, I need 13 in intelligence so 3 points less, I have 12 points to add in physical attributes, I have two choices putting the remaining points in related characteritics, which make me a bad manoeuver fighter due to Strength or Dexterity of a Garden Snail...I want to make a monk, with meditation, so I need to have at least, 13 in wisdom, even more to more options, so the same issue to split my 12 points in other stats if I want Stunning Fist, I have to put more points in Dexterity...
If you are MAD with a 15 PB, you don't have many options on your character.
As PB encourage to have standarized characters, especially on MAD Classes, a 15 is even more a point as you are forced to dump to have something usable in play.

Actually, there is a feat now that lets you skip the 13 int.

As for having to dump stats, I don't see anything wrong with that. It creates characters with flaws.

We all know our fine friends at Paizo don't want to stat the gods of the Pathfinder Campaign Setting. Now that's fine for some. But personally I want to see some stats for the gods! I always want to know just how powerful things are. What level spells can deities cast? Just how much damage can Rovagug do per round? If Asmodeus and Sarenrae were in a fight who would win? These are the types of questions that need answers!

That means we must stat the gods!

Here's some suggestions/ideas I came up with for stating the gods.

1) Personally I'd imagine the deities as being between CR 31 - CR 40. Gods like Pharasma and Rovagug would naturally be on the higher end of the spectrum. Not every deity is CR 40.

2) Ever deity must have some way it can be killed, other than Rovagug.

3) Every deity should have some AWESOME unique power.

4) If you could add tactics to best utilize a deity that would be fantastic!

You can stat any Pathfinder god or goddess you want! You can make as many deities as you want. You can put them all in one post or spread them out between posts. Be creative and have fun! That sounds really cliché doesn't it?

If you're a Paizo employee feel free to join on the fun!

If you want a reference, James Jacobs has said Lamashtu could pop down to Golarion and turn millions of people into dretches if she wanted to. She doesn't because Sarenae would then pop down and do the same thing to all her followers(except with good outsiders) and nobody would win.

So if you do stat them you need to think on that scale. Deity special abilities are things that can effect millions of people or entire planets.