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Anyway it would be fun to be able to do unarmed strikes without an arm.

I'd day if it is able to do a claw attakc, it should also be able to do an attack with a fist.


The 2nd level of eldrictch guardian provides share training:

Share Training (Ex)
At 2nd level, when the familiar can see and hear its master, it can use any combat feat possessed by the eldritch guardian. The familiar doesn’t have to meet the feat’s prerequisites, but at the GM’s discretion may be precluded from using certain combat feats due to its physical form. For example, an eldritch guardian’s pig familiar with access to Exotic Weapon Proficiency (spiked chain) would not gain the ability to use spiked chains, since it doesn’t have any limbs capable of properly handling them.

"but at the GM’s discretion may be precluded from using certain combat feats due to its physical form."

I guess its up to the GM.


Hi all,

Say my lvl3 human has 2 levels of fighter with archetype eldritch guardian and 1 level of monk. He has the three possessed hand feats up to detached hand's (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/hand-s-detachment/).

As my hand is now a familiar I apply the mauler familiar archetype.

When my hand detaches can it use the improved unarmed strike combat feat and stunning fist combat feat from the monk level?

Thanks, Gleem


Hi all,

Say my lvl3 human has 2 levels of fighter with archetype eldritch guardian and 1 level of monk. He has the three possessed hand feats up to detached hand's (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/hand-s-detachment/).

As my hand is now a familiar I apply the mauler familiar archetype.

When my hand detaches can it use the improved unarmed strike combat feat and stunning fist combat feat from the monk level?

Thanks, Gleem


Thanks, that sounds reasonble.

I will look for other minmax shenanigans.


My GM allowed me to take finesse training (Wajang unchained rogue at lvl 11, savage technologist 1) for bite attacks. Next level I will take another savage technologist level and take the rage power "animal fury".

I am considering buying the ring of rat fangs and cloak of fangs. How do they interact?

In a full round attack including two weapon fighting , using the cloak and the ring do I get the two bite attacks (at -5) of which one is size category small and the other medium damage wise?

In a full round attack including two weapon fighting , using the cloak and the ring and raging with animal fury do I get the three bite attacks (at -5) of which one is size category small and the other two at medium damage?

If flanking I think I get sneak damage on all of those bite attacks. Is this correct?