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Im not really sure if this is admitted on a PFS game, but I think using the Dawnflower Dervish archetype from the bard is a better option.
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So, my question is: if an archetype replaces another class feature, does any prestige class that increases the class feature increase the archetype class feature? For example, The 4 winds monk changes Stunning fist for an extra damaging elemental fist. The Prestige class Champion of Irori increases the stunning fist of a monk. Does this stack with the 4 winds monk archetype?
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So, my question is: if an archetype replaces another class feature, does any prestige class that increases the class feature increase the archetype class feature? For example, The 4 winds monk changes Stunning fist for an extra damaging elemental fist. The Prestige class Champion of Irori increases the stunning fist of a monk. Does this stack with the 4 winds monk archetype?
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Thanks for the feedback! prototype00: Nice catch, a +1 to mental stats will definitely help the first build. johnlocke90: Im considering just using unarmed combat. Its not a restriction, but I see more options for unarmed combat than with a weapon. Shisumo: Right, I didnt consider the first lvls. The first build would only be playable since lvl 3 and good since lvl 5. The second would be playable since lvl 1 and good since lvl 3.
For the dex build:
For the wis-cha build:
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Well, after reading the Champion of Irori, I was motivated to do a Paladin/Monk. My first problem was obviusly the MADness of it (4 relevant stats).
Wis+Cha build,
Required feats: guided hand
So this builds adds charisma to CA and CMD and use wisdom to hit. Has some pretty good CMD, saves and evasion, making this more of a defensive character. Dex+Wis+Cha build,
Required feats: Finess
This builds sacrifice defense for more damage. Any idea how to improve on this ideas? any feat/trait I'm missing? Suggestions? ![]()
IMO, the best rage prophet is the barbarian heavy build. Start with only a char 14, 1 lvl of oracle (clearly lame) and forget about casting offensive spells (not such a MAD character for a "gish"). Use your oracle spells for buffs/utility/extra rage/out of combat healing. And mainly, take advantage of the inmunity to fatigue (in the worst case, you will gain it at lvl 8). Pop in and out of rage on your turn. You will have almost all the advantages of rage, and none of the disadvantages (like -2/3 CA). Also, you will be able to move normally on a heavy armor at high (12) lvl. One of the main problems with rage prophet is the lack of feats, because you will be taking lots of extra rage and/or extra revelation in addition to normal barbarian feats. I found out that one interesting options for a rage prophet is to dip in fighter/other class for free feats. something like brb 4 or 3/fighter 1 or 2/orac 1. This can help for some build without really affecting the character performance. The following rage powers stack nicely with Rage Prophet:
For mysteries, take what you want. There are a lot of decent revelations than scale with lvl and dont have requirements.
On a similar note, Im working in a interesting combination. A Rage prophet using Crane style, Stalwart and Bolstered Resilience. While fighting defensibly he will have a -1 to hit, will deflect 1 melee attack (and punch back), DR 10 against the first attack each turn and 5 against the rest. All this at lvl 9, so not too high lvl. At lvl 13 this DR will be almost doubled with improved stalward (DR 18 and 9). |