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This is a thread for all those that are bummed about the Iroran Paladin archetype from Inner Sea Combat being unable to build into Champion of Irori.

For those that don't know, Champion of Irori is a prestige class that blends Monk and Paladin. It requires Smite Evil from Paladin and Still Mind from Monk, among other things, as prerequisites. Unfortunately, the new Paladin archetype (Iroran Paladin, which adds some monk-like attributes to the Paladin class and links to the same god as the Prestige Class) that should fit into this theme completely shuts you out of that Prestige Class, as it replaces Smite Evil :(

Aside from reaching out for solidarity, I'd love to know the reasoning behind this. Ideally, someone official will see this and answer, but in absence of that, if anyone with better grasp of the rules than I have could tell me why this combination would be frowned upon, please enlighten me.

Hopefully, if enough Brothers and Sisters of Irori can stand and be heard, we could get some errata maybe? A kung fu Paladin can dream, can't he? ;)


Just recently played the start of a PFS campaign at my FLGS. I built a sort of odd Bat Shaman Druid and I'd like some help planning for the future to make him as cool as possible.

Nahaak "Speaks With Shadows"

Lvl 1 Human(Shoanti) Druid (Bat Shaman)

STR: 13
DEX: 15
CON: 12
INT: 13
WIS: 15
CHA: 12

Druid Doman: Night

FEATS:
-Point Blank Shot
-Precise Shot
-Blind Fight (from Night Domain)

Traits:
Shoanti Tattoo
Heirloom Weapon (Proficiency-Longbow)

WEAPONS:
Longbow
Club
Scimitar
Shoanti Bolas

That's the basics I've got so far. I added "Heart of the Wilderness" to his Human racial traits as well. I intended for him to be a sort of shamanic hunter, his main mode of attack being the longbow (which I will have Masterwork Transformation cast upon ASAP), and using his druid spells for support and utility. I'd like to stay a primarily ranged character, as the rest of the party are primarily melee (Samurai, Rogue, and melee focused Cleric). I can still rebuild, since I'm level 1, so aside from wanting to stay ranged and a Bat Shaman I'm not super attached to anything else here. Any advice for the future of this character?


So I want my monk to make a few monk-specific magic items on his own (Ring of Ki Mastery, Headband of Ki Focus, etc.) but all the magic item feats require a caster level. However, a number of these items require a ki pool or to be a monk to create. So, does that mean that I'd have to be a wizard/monk to make it work? Or am I missing something that would give monks an out here? I feel like I read something that let monks make such items, but I could just be crazy. Anyone know the answer to this or have suggestions as to how I could go about this?


Reference: Champion of Irori PFSRD page

Under the Champion's Ki Pool ability, it mentions that a Champion of Irori can spend ki to trigger Lay on hands or Smite Evil. It also states that levels in Champion of Irori stack with Paladin levels to "determine the effect of such abilities."
Can I get some disambiguation on this? What exactly do the class's levels stack to determine in regard to Lay on Hands: dice, #of uses, or both? Do the levels of Champion stack with Paladin for any use of Lay on Hands, or just the ki-powered ones?


I'm working on a Cleric, and he recently got his level 3 spells. Among them is Symbol of Healing. I have an idea for a neat trick I'd like to do with it, and I want to know if/how it'd work. Here goes:
1- buy a large tarp or cloth
2- scribe said Symbol on said cloth
3-Fold/roll up cloth and put in bag
4- when needed, unfold/unroll the cloth and activate the Symbol

If the triggering mechanism is similar to Symbol of Death, then I can make it something like "trigger when I put both hands on the symbol and say the magic words" when I initially scribe it right?

Is this fair game, and what kind of actions would it take to deploy the emergency symbol from a mechanical standpoint while in combat, and while out of it?
Any tips from fellow Clerics on how to have an emergency Symbol to deploy, if possible would be appreciated as well. (I'm assuming just scribing it on my weapon or something is no good, since it must be clearly visible from 60 feet away.)


In our weekly Pathfinder game, we're doing Way of the Wicked, and one our players is a witch that wants to take Souleater as a prestige class. Here's where we're scratching our heads:

Whenever you take that first level of Souleater, your new cacodaemon familiar devours your old familiar. However, since a witch's familiar is effectively her spellbook, does she then have to spend time and money teaching the daemon her spells? Or, does the line about "not penalizing the caster" also mean that the cacodaemon "absorbs" all the old familiar's spells?
Cacodaemon Familiar
I think our DM's going to rule that since:
a)Cacodaemons eat souls
and
b)The Horseman she's intending to choose has a similar portfolio to her Witch Patron
That her new familiar will absorb the old, but a little more clarification would be helpful in the decision.


This may be a silly question, but I was looking over the entry for Champion of Irori and I need something cleared up.
It says that "a champion of Irori may expend 2 ki points to trigger either his lay on hands ability (if he has it) or his smite evil ability."

Does this mean that a ki-fueled LoH or Smite doesn't consume one of my daily uses and/or I can use ki to activate one of these abilities even if I'm out of regular ones for the day?
If this isn't the case, what is the difference between triggering one of these abilities with ki and using it normally? Keep in mind I'm still a little bit new to this, I was just sort of snooping around to see what I might want to do a few levels down the road with the Paladin I'm playing.


Hey all! I played my 1st game of Pathfinder at a convention recently, and I had a ton of fun. However, I'm not sure if I'll get to play that particular campaign (Legends of the Shining Jewel) very often, since I don't actually get to go to many conventions and I don't think anyone in my hometown plays it. Is it possible to move this character to another setting/campaign in Pathfinder, or not? If not, I'd like to find other Legends of the Shining Jewel players in or near Owensboro KY to start or join a game with.