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Because he isn't fully prepared for every single action that could occur in combat.

You can't just say "I don't provoke an AoO" and expect it to be true, any more than a level 1 fighter can just say "I cast time stop" and actually cast time stop.

I assume you're trying to understand AoOs, and not looking for a way to avoid them by twisting the wording and intent of the rules. The Attack of Opportunities section and the Actions In Combat table explain, with diagrams, what AoOs are and how they work.

Moving out of a threatened square provokes an AoO from the threatening creature. Making a non-unarmed strike melee attack against that creature does not provoke, however if you moved out of one of their threatened squares to get close to them, you will provoke unless you took a 5' step since a 5' step to leave a threatened square explicitly does not provoke. (Of course, once you take a 5' you cannot move, and if you've moved that round, you can't take a 5' step.)

One of my players which is a very old and dear friend of mine who is like me a old school AD&D player. The majority of my gaming group wanted to try Pathfinder I agreed bought the books and is currently learning the rules I am the GM. My objective is to be able to completely and flawlessly interpret the rules, which unfortunately means I have to ask a lot of questions from all perspectives.As I stated before I am not trying to troll or cause a flame war I really just want to understand the rules flawlessly.

My friend does not believe it is fair for any creature regardless of size or reach to get an attack of opportunity "IF" the PC is running up to engage in melee since he is prepared for combat.

He is very adamant about it and I am really trying hard to find a good and logical way of explaining this to him with out taking him to the zoo and forcing him to attack a Rhino.

I really do appreciate all the help everyone has giving me so far and the lighting quick responses, and I realize I am coming off as a complete and total hard headed jerk, but I just want to get every possible scenario down.

Any additional help and or advice will be most appreciated.

Best Regards,

Don

dontheox wrote:

Jiggy wrote:

It doesn't. I didn't say it did. I said that moving from the 10ft threatened square into the 5ft threatened square provokes. Whether the ranger attacks or not is irrelevant to that point.

I know you did not say that but the rules do, in the list of what does and does not provoke a AoO. A melee attack does not provoke

You haven't attacked yet if you're moving towards him. You haven't even tried to attack him yet, you are just moving towards him.

Okay,

The ranger is prepared for combat. Why should any creature get AoO on a combatant that is fully prepared for melee?

It doesn't. I didn't say it did. I said that moving from the 10ft threatened square into the 5ft threatened square provokes. Whether the ranger attacks or not is irrelevant to that point.

I know you did not say that but the rules do, in the list of what does and does not provoke a AoO. A melee attack does not provoke

The ranger provokes if he leaves a threatened square. If he moves from the ogre's outer threatened square to his inner threatened square, then he's left a threatened square.

But I thought attacking does not provoke and attack of opportunity?

Morning All,

Yet another question about attacks of opportunity

Ranger is approaching the ogre to engage in melee. The ogre has a two square (10') reach. Does the ogre get an attack of opportunity?

And if the ogre does why?

Ok thank you for clarify it for me.

Regards

Don

But the ogre is not paying attention to the Ranger, the ogre decides to attack the fighter the ranger is already engaged in combat, so to me the ogre is performing a distracting action by "reaching" to attack the fighter.

Why is making a an AoO not considered a distracting action?

If the Ranger is attacking the ogre in melee combat and the ogre decides to make an AoO on the incoming fighter, how is that not a distracting action?

I am not trying to start a flame war or be a troll, I am just trying to understand the rules better, I promise.

Regards,

Don

I am sorry I did not explain myself clearly.

Example as above;

Ranger is engaged in melee with Ogre, Fighter moves into ogre's threatened square to attack the ogre. If the ogre decides to make an AoO on the fighter, does the Ranger get AoO?

And if not why not?

If a PC is engaged in melee combat with a creature that has a number of Attack of Opportunities because of feats and the creature has reach. Does the PC that is engaged in melee combat get an attack of opportunity on the creature if the creature decides to make an AOO?

Thank You!!

I will probably get all of them in time I just needed to know which ones were more important to get first.

Don

Hello All!!

I am a new to Pathfinder but I have been a DM/GM for at least 20 years I have been running mostly AD&D 1st and 2nd edition.

I just wanted to know what books I initially need to start out besides the Core Rulebook and the first Bestiary. I have the GM screen (Which is very nice!) and the Advanced Players Guide. I checked out the Game Master's Guide, and please do not take this the wrong way I am not trying to be arrogant, but all it had in it was things I already knew how to do as a Game Master. It really did not focus much on rules that might be a little more complicated for a newbie Pathfinder GM.

Any advice would be appreciated.