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A bit confused who is older. Pharasma or Desna. Can you help me with that?

Pharasma existed prior to the start of the age of creation and is sole survivor of the previous reality. Alone or with Desna?

After that, Pharasma becomes aware of Yog-Sothoth, who was the 'watcher' from the previous reality. So, this is clarify what Yog-Satoth is older than both this godes


I know Psychics are not a Sorcerers, but the essence of their way to spellcascting is mysterious and incomprehensible (probably like any magic in general for us, people who are in the real world), but at the same time it requires the user to be a rational and conscious being, capable of studying and explore his mind. I understand that the narrative component of the class and its way of casting spells is built specifically in such a way that it can be decided with the GM or chosen as you like. But I would still like to have some confirmation or refutation of my arguments.

My thoughts on this are that the description of the class, its consciousness and subconscious, allows for both scenarios of how you can get psychic spellcasting:

  • - You weren't born with any special abilities. You mastered this method of spellcasting through diligent study and training, which allowed you to develop your brain and mind. Gathered Lore and Precise Discipline are most suitable for this situation, although other subconsciouses can be chosen as well.
  • - You were born with this ability, and you developed it over time (like a sorcerer). Emotional Acceptance and Wandering Reverie are more appropriate for this situation, although other subconsciouses can be chosen as well.

But I'm not here just to tell you how I see this situation. I'm interested in how this question will be answered:

  • 1) Firstly by Paizo
  • 2) Secondly by those others who know and understand the lore and universe of Pathfinder

So tell me: can psychic ability be learned, or are people born with it, or both?


Hello everyone! Please, help me to clarify this wording:

"You access the vast well of power that resides within your own mind, calling forth psychic magic with nothing but thought and will. You are a spellcaster and can cast occult spells using the Cast a Spell activity (Pathfinder Player Core 299). You don’t need to utter incantations to cast your spells, instead exerting your mind toward your intended effect as described in your subconscious mind class feature. Your spells still have clear and noticeable visual and auditory manifestations, as normal for a spellcaster."

Source: Pathfinder 2e Dark Archive Remaster.

I see clearly "You don’t need to utter incantations". It means Psychic spellcasting remove "auditory" trait from spells.

During my time playing games, I've seen the "lazy" nature of PF2e rules: Rules do only what they say, and nothing more.

But I still have doubts, because of two things:
1) "calling forth psychic magic with nothing but
thought and will" - it can be interpreted like Psychic need no nothing do to cast spells, even manipulate with their limbs or something like this, which we understand as a "manipulate" trait.
2) The most common and popular image of psychic/psionic - it is a creature that does everything with the power of the mind, without interacting with the world directly with the body.

I hope you can help me clear my doubts regarding this issue.


Hello everyone! I was thinking about the current implementation of witchwarper and it gave me the idea that it should be completely occult. I'll try to explain why.

The paradox of anomaly gives us the arcane spell tradition, although thematically this paradox is much closer to something occult, incomprehensible and unknown. I think it would be more appropriate if this paradox gave the occult spell tradition. This idea can be extended to the entire class. The witchwarper itself is something that will disrupt the natural order of things, something that is thematically closer to the occult than the arcane.

I think that witchwarper would look more thematically holistic if it was completely occult, or at least if the paradox of anomaly gave occult spell tradition, and for example the precog anomaly gave arcane (but it doesn't seem to greatly improve the thematic state of the class).

I decided to share my observations and thoughts about the class. I would be glad to know what you think about this. If you find my suggestion useful, then maybe we can draw Paizo's attention to this situation.