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Ok, thank you all for your response. Unfortunately my character doesn't have any memory spells. So i guess rephrasing it is the best I can do.


Hi all,

So my character did something that he wasn't suppose to do. Unfortunately someone saw him do it and my character knew he saw him do it.

In response I made a suggestion spell: 'I suggest you forget what you just saw and never talk about it to anyone.'

Is this a legitimate action or does it overstep the boundaries of the suggestion spell?


ok, this clearly answers my question. thx all!


yeah gauss, I know it's not your quote. I pressed reply to quote mplindustries, but you just made a post the second I did and the site mixed it up. I just edited the post afterwards to quote the right thing. Don't worry about it.

all the examples are with the poison applied to it first.
so first round the poison spell, second round the CC. I thought that was kinda clear from the opening post...

by fear I also mean the spell fear which causes frightened (or panicked in a corner).

so let me just rephrase the ham question as best I can here:

- first round: I cast the spell poison on 1 enemy, causing them to take 1d3 CON dmg each round for 6 rounds (unless successful safe roll)

- second round: I apply any kind of spell CC move (charm OR confusion OR fear OR sleep OR whetever else there is)

question: Does the 1d3 CON damage break the CC move?
meaning that on turn 3 a charmed creature would break free of the charm effect because it took 1d3 CON damage.

That is as best as I can describe it :P


Gauss wrote:
It's not really just an example, it's basically THE example, since I can't think of another form of CC that breaks on damage.

well I can think of a few other ways.

suggestion: "I suggest you don't do anything because I won't attack you for 6 rounds."
fear: saving throw -> yes, but does the poison tick break fear? (doesn't really state it breaks at all, but just to be sure)
confusion: unable to act state
charm: you are my slowly dying little friend now :P
etc...

thx to everyone responding so far:
We already established that you wil get the save roll, but not if it breaks the spell.


well the question isn't really about sleep. just if any form of CC would break from ability damage or drain. Sleep was just an example.


Hi everyone.

As the title says: does abilty drain or ability damage break any form of CC spells (like sleep, fear, etc...)

So lets imagine a fight between me (a sorcerer) and 1 random monster of any kind.
Turn 1 I inflict the spell 'poison' on it. So its constitution will be lowered by 1d3 every round (for 6 rounds). (see: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/poison)

on my second turn I cast 'sleep' on it, making it unable to do its save roll against the poison ticks. this way it will slowly but surely die from the ability damage ticking away at its constitution score.

however i found no clear note if the ability damage would break the sleep effect or not...