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To preface, I'm aware this is only a preview and the core rulebook as well as subsequent books may clear a lot of this up.

KingOfAnything wrote:
Forest fires are a necessary part of a healthy forest, generally improving access to nutrients for the surviving vegetation. I wouldn't object to a god of natural destruction having an interest in forest fires, though. While they have positive effects, fires are violent and sometimes more destructive than constructive.

The discussion we're having now is what I expect to have happened the setting at some point, the statement I'm attempting to make was less "no it should be this way" and instead "why is it this way?". Perhaps more importantly, why in setting is everyone ok to have it this way?

As for the forest fire metaphor, honestly I'd expect that any society where physical divinity is a thing that they'd associate something like that with a god of rebirth or even healing. The practice of religion, abstracted from whatever divine power actually exists within the setting, is largely about making the practitioner feel better about themselves. Its far easier to pick through the charred remains of your home looking for a child who didn't escape when the thought in the back of your mind is "Pharasma gives, Pharasma takes." than the implication of some generic God of EdgelordingDestruction simply thinking "LAWL FUK U EL-OH-EL".

Why would this matter? Because in a setting with physical divinity you can be pretty sure that as soon as such arguments became a thing they'd be resolved by the sword, or manapistol, very quickly. Even unto the point of inducing the Gods themselves to capitulate.

KingOfAnything wrote:
I think of supernovae in the same way. While they do a lot to spread heavy elements in the universe, they are essentially a violent end to a star, and can lead to singularities.

No dying stars no carbon. It isn't just the heavier elements, its pretty much everything beyond Lithium. Giving something positioned as the "Devourer" any nominal domain over something as creation-required as Supernova is... almost juvenile. Its the kind of reaction I'd expect 11 year old me to think was "cool".

Aside from the element creation supernovae create some of the most spectacular and beautiful structures in the universe,

Having the Devourer just be entropy, pure and unbridled, is far more of a terrifying implication than his current domains. Even singularities eventually evaporate.


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Additionally having Pharasma explicitly be the Diety associated with supernovae would put her followers at direct odds with the followers of Sarenrae, creating a meaningful divine conflict within the otherwise bland interactions between the Gods of this setting.


Given that supernovae are the most significant engines of creation in our current understanding of physics, I don't understand how/why the Devourer the Deity associated with them. If anything they're actively undoing everything the Devourer stands for.

Starfinder physics doesn't need to agree with ours but the terminology being used here is odd. Are you guys specifically addressing the idea that supernova > singularity therefore supernovae are the domain of the Devourer? Ignoring all other potential outcomes from supernovae.

Pharasma would be far more appropriate.

I searched the thread a bit to see if this had been asked, and I'll probably just errata that out for my own games, but I'd be interested to know if there is something I'm missing.


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