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@Rynjin The first guess about what this was supposed to be is more accurate then the whole "a cry for attention/roundabout way of asking for relationship advice in an inappropriate setting." theory.

You could at least venture a guess like Kirth there.

@Rynjin its not my fault that you were too lazy to read the title of the thread and just put in what alignment you were without bothering to read.

@Kirth Gersen You do know that the title of the thread says which alignment or alignments based on the alignment system are you and which am i? don't you? It wasn't put like that for nothing. Furthermore it ain't my fault that y all forgot about the other part of the title thread and just put in your own alignment.
And as for the alignment you put as okay?

I think this is the first I've ever seen a relationship rant/advice thread disguised as an alignment thread. Very cleverly done!

I don't think the abstract game mechanics of alignment necessarily apply well to real life, but if we're going to try to pigeonhole ourselves, I'd say OP was CN.

As my profile states, I think I am NG, except when I am Chaotic or Lawful. (I have strong streaks of "but we have to follow the rules cause they're the RULES" but also of "not gonna do what you're gonna tell me to, screw authority!")

Don't we pigeonhole ourselves all the time though? What about the stereotypes thing? isn't that not pigeonholing as well? How about the whole league thing in dating? where people are pigeonholed into leagues and only those in the league they are pigeonholed into can date. What about the label of male and female isn't that pigeonholing as well? putting a label on someone that may or may not act like their biological gender. Most importantly how about the whole sexuality thing? saying that people are straight, gay, bisexual or asexual isn't that not also pigeonholing as well?

Judging by the fact that you chose this particular forum, I'm going to guess you either lurk or use these boards. If it is the second, I'm guessing this is not your main account. I'm also going to guess that what you want here is attention, whether positive or negative.

I know this because I've spent a fair portion of my life acting the exact same way. It'll get you your attention in the short term, but in the long term you are going to have the reputation of an annoying troublemaker, and people won't want you around. If you don't particularly care about this forum, fine. You'll eventually be banned, and if you come back you'll be banned again.

If you do care about your status on this forum, tread carefully. Try to seek attention by posting about your games or creations instead of fighting.

This applies to real life, too. As a general rule, people will give you the kind of attention that mirrors your actions, and if it's usually negative they won't want to be around you.

Truct me on this. I've screwed up my life pretty well by acting like this, and it's not easy to fix it.

I wasn't sure what to say to this at first. But now that I've had time to think about this, i have to say: I'm sure you were being helpful and i thank you for your concern. But what about other people that do the same thing like cam girls? Why are they allowed to do the attention thing but not me? And yes i just compared this to someone who seeks attention on the internet the only difference is they do it for money and its okay for them but i"m a piece of garbage? sorry i don't get it. As far as what my reputation will end up being, I'm confused about this are you going to get me banned or something because that's what i gathered from it if not then my bad. To me i see it as defending myself. Its up to people on how they react to me, i can't really do anything to make them think anything but what they will think about me.

I think I'm Neutral Stupid. Or possibly Neutral (Stupid Tendencies).

Mind you, I took that online test and it came up with a great big picture of Stalin and told me I was Lawful Evil, so now I'm heading off to CRUSH THE WEAK IN THE NAME OF ASMODEUS. Just as soon as I've finished this flower arrangement.

Okay, now about the original post?

I am obligated to let you all know that I'm detecting evil on this entire thread. Prepare to be smote if my paladin sense tingles.

And as for your question, Lawful Good. There are some who find it amusing to replace "good" with another descriptive term, usually not one that a Lawful Good person would use. It isn't funny.

*Settles in and stares at the thread intently, prepared to get up and smite if anything pings*

Are you talking about me Paladin?

*Runs away just to grab a pepsi and popcorn just to fly away on a flying thing a majig*

CE. Definitely CE. But don't tell Lawful Stupid over there. *Draws +5 Poisoned Short Sword* He's mine.

That's you or me?

I'm a member of your posse? actually scratch that, that would require effort lots of it so yea have fun being treated the same way as a LG and NG. LOL.

Put me down for Lawful Stupid Paladin.

AS per the OP, and people in general, you aren't evil just because you do a few things to hurt someone here and there. We would all be considered Evil in that case. In DnD, as in life, getting really angry with someone and hitting them, stealing lunch, etc. once in a blue moon isn't enough to make people consider you a terrible person.

Okay? so would you agree that people would be Neutral then as opposed to evil? because i don't believe people are either exclusively and that goes doubly for me.

bbgenderless100 wrote:

LazarX wrote:

bbgenderless100 wrote:

Okay, well the alignment system makes alot more sense then the Bible and anything similar to it.

Even as an atheist, I have a strong problem with that statement. It implies that you have a very narrow reductionist, superficial view of the world and the people around you. And if you've actually READ a Bible, you don't seem to have bothered to understand it much, or the contexts in which various parts of it were written over the centuries.

What you fail to understand is that alignment was built as a wargaming mechanic to determine what kind of units you could put together for a wargaming board army. It's roleplaying features are of secondary function and not really meant to be looked over with an electron microscope. Take any popular character of any real depth and you'll get equally convincing arguments for multiple alignments which may be more than one step from each other... because people ARE that complex.

Alignment is a crappy way of describing any character that's got more depth than an Ayn Rand cipher.

Alright. Well i tried reading the bible once and i just couldn't bring myself to read anymore and as far as my views go. Um i do not have to conform and become a copycat if i do not want too. Just because you decide to not believe in a god and read through the bible does not mean i have to conform and copy everything you do sir. And i know this alignment system was designed for something originally but i decided to believe in it, so you are allowed to believe we evolved from an ape? or that an explosion happened and we just came to be but how dare i choose to not conform and believe in something else? uh whats with the double standards? why am i denied my right to choose Lazar?

If you prefer to make your judgements from ignorance that is your right and no one will prevent you from doing so. Your arguments and pronouncements however will be weighed on the foundation (or lack of) you support...

Also doesn't the bible contradict itself like millions of times?

The alignment system doesn't appear to have that problem from what i gathered, but eh.

bbgenderless100 wrote:

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Neutral.

Alright now about the OP?

Yes.

Which alignment works for it?

Lawful Neutral

Okay.

And about the first poster?

bbgenderless100 wrote:

3.5 Loyalist wrote:

I'd be chaotic neutral leaning at times to neutral and a curious dab of lawful neutral (if you give your word that should be your bond, if you claim to stand for something then actually stand for it coward).

The first poster is chaotic all over the place.

Huh.

Alright with that said, if you were to try and pinpoint out of CN or CE or even CN leaning G or E which would you go with?

CN, but not my CN, no you are not cool enough for that.

; )

Perhaps you move as you feel you need to, or do as you wish, fickle all over the place, betraying trust and friends in search of a quick bang, profit or what is easy.

Now you might get some sort of code or adhere to certain laws, you are still young yeah? You might even out, find something to believe in, something that makes it all make sense, we shall see. Watch out for clerics!

True that.

bbgenderless100 wrote:

And i know this alignment system was designed for something originally but i decided to believe in it, so you are allowed to believe we evolved from an ape? or that an explosion happened and we just came to be but how dare i choose to not conform and believe in something else? uh whats with the double standards? why am i denied my right to choose Lazar?

Bolded sections indicate lack of comprehension of the concept of objective reality.

Alright? um..... thanks?

CG. In the words of Sam Spade, "Don't think I'm as crooked as I'm supposed to be."

Probably.

Now about the other question?

Neutral.

Alright now about the OP?

Chaotic good. I'm really subject to my whims and fancies, but I do like helping people and am generally a nice guy. I don't really care much for law, either.

Sounds like Chaotic Good to me,now about the OP?

Didn't read all of this but are we defining "good" and "evil" by a Judeo-Christian construct? Makes a big difference...

and lawful/chaotic good here. I'm not going to burn down buildings but I lean more on the rebellious side and question authority.

The alignment system and the Construct you mentioned?

Alright that makes sense.

I'd be chaotic neutral leaning at times to neutral and a curious dab of lawful neutral (if you give your word that should be your bond, if you claim to stand for something then actually stand for it coward).

The first poster is chaotic all over the place.

Huh.

Alright with that said, if you were to try and pinpoint out of CN or CE or even CN leaning G or E which would you go with?

I'm going to let others respond before I answer your question. But given your responses, I rather doubt that you're worth my effort to continue this. And I see no reason to needlessly add to this thread count.

I was trying to be as civil as i possibly thought i could be , but i didn't do it right huh? oh well like i always say you can never please anyone no matter what, so why bother.
You may see this as a way to get some attention, or your jollies. You might imagine that we are in some sort of contest. But we're not. I have no interest, nor desire to convert you, to convince you, or even to prove to you my worth, or the worth of my opinions as you don't show any sign that you have any concept of social decorum or respect.
Why should i show any concept of social decorum or respect if you are just gonna be unhappy with me no matter what i do?
If you wish to take this as some form of victory, feel welcome to do so. But I won't claim to lead you or anyone to any form of enlightenment. That is a path each of us has to discover for oneself and has to choose to make that effort.
Alright.

bbgenderless100 wrote:

LazarX wrote:

bbgenderless100 wrote:

Okay, well the alignment system makes alot more sense then the Bible and anything similar to it.

Even as an atheist, I have a strong problem with that statement. It implies that you have a very narrow reductionist, superficial view of the world and the people around you. And if you've actually READ a Bible, you don't seem to have bothered to understand it much, or the contexts in which various parts of it were written over the centuries.

What you fail to understand is that alignment was built as a wargaming mechanic to determine what kind of units you could put together for a wargaming board army. It's roleplaying features are of secondary function and not really meant to be looked over with an electron microscope. Take any popular character of any real depth and you'll get equally convincing arguments for multiple alignments which may be more than one step from each other... because people ARE that complex.

Alignment is a crappy way of describing any character that's got more depth than an Ayn Rand cipher.

Alright. Well i tried reading the bible once and i just couldn't bring myself to read anymore and as far as my views go. Um i do not have to conform and become a copycat if i do not want too. Just because you decide to not believe in a god and read through the bible does not mean i have to conform and copy everything you do sir. And i know this alignment system was designed for something originally but i decided to believe in it, so you are allowed to believe we evolved from an ape? or that an explosion happened and we just came to be but how dare i choose to not conform and believe in something else? uh whats with the double standards? why am i denied my right to choose Lazar?

If you prefer to make your judgements from ignorance that is your right and no one will prevent you from doing so. Your arguments and pronouncements however will be weighed on the foundation (or lack of) you support...

I will use my freedom to do what i want, for the record i do think these alignments exist in real life meaning there are people out there with certain traits that line up with the alignments i believe anyways. But yes people are very complex, hence why i put out the possibility of people being more then one alignment. However there are people out there that are so complex that no alignment works for them at all perhaps there are more of these people then i realize who knows really.

I used to be Lawful Evil, but as I've aged have become more Lawful Neutral, leaning towards Good.

In DnD terms, that is.

Alright.

So about the other question?

Seeing your response on the atheist who defends the sensibility of the Bible (at last as a moral treatise), I'd have to say this exercise has brought you more than enough attention. When the post was about a blank slate with a few character flaws, it was a potentially interesting discussion about alignment mechanics vs real world ethics and how we all might see them. Your response about the Bible clearly indicates you want to pick a fight. First you bring the Bible into a conversation for the purpose of comparing it to a roleplaying mechanic, then you type a long response declaring that you don't have to read it if you don't want to. We know that already. That doesn't change its merits, whether historical, ethical or theological (I am fully bought into all three). What's your real purpose? To have strangers further define you, or to tempt comments from well-meaning respondents and then argue with their posts?

I hope you've learned something about yourself and I hope you gain greater depth of character and are pleased with the result.

I started this thread as a source of amusement and self gratification but you probably figured as much huh? or did i?

The alignments i think i'm are: Chaotic Neutral,True Neutral,Neutral Good and either Chaotic Evil or

Neutral Evil.

I don't really trust anyone or anything at all because they all tend to oppress my freedom to do whatever i want to do which is what i long for and really only care about despite seeming like i don't. I also can be really lazy when it comes to everything and anything. I believe that good and bad are subjective as what one person views as good another will view as bad etc. For example: I slept with my good friend who is dating someone at the moment
some will consider me evil because of this or Neutral, however he offered to do it with me when i brought it up in a conversation one night and then he changed his mind while doing it with me so i stopped due to him changing his mind. I was so enjoying it until he stopped and since then i've been upset with him. So
because i sensed that he was gonna kill the enjoyment for me somehow, afterwards and still am irritated that he backed out. I also have gone and sold a christmas present after being told not to for money, because i was craving Popcorn at the time. I also for the longest time made it out to look like i forgave my mom but really i went over to her place with her current lover to eat and so she can't say that i don't see her at all.
I will always respect her for bringing me into this world but don't trust her.

I also believe that people should be free to do whatever they want, however whatever they end up doing with that freedom is on them to deal with not me.

I don't use violence but don't consider myself a pacifist because if i could find a way to use it with my lack of upper body strength i would.

I also don't like being told no but tend to swallow my feelings about the issue and pretend like i don't.

Edit:Which alignment or alignments do you think you are? and which of them is this OP?

Will be interesting to see the responses.

"I meant to say I really went over to her and her current lover's place to eat instead of " but really i went over to her place with her current lover to eat".

First of all, I kind of like the D&D alignment system as a simplistic way to describe personal ethics and morality.

Exactly.
In many ways, it's akin to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator for ethics and morality: it's pretty descriptive, but it's also easy to read too much into it. People are more complex than a letter-code and how their typical behavior falls on different axes. At the same time, it can tell you something about yourself.
Excellent.
That said, from what the OP describes about himself, I'd peg him as Chaotic Neutral.
Fantastic.
As for me, any gamer who knows me would agree that I'm Lawful Good.

Sounds like it.

I think the OPs alignment is ADD.

So Chaotic Neutral? or True Neutral?

bbgenderless100 wrote:

Okay, well the alignment system makes alot more sense then the Bible and anything similar to it.

Even as an atheist, I have a strong problem with that statement. It implies that you have a very narrow reductionist, superficial view of the world and the people around you. And if you've actually READ a Bible, you don't seem to have bothered to understand it much, or the contexts in which various parts of it were written over the centuries.

What you fail to understand is that alignment was built as a wargaming mechanic to determine what kind of units you could put together for a wargaming board army. It's roleplaying features are of secondary function and not really meant to be looked over with an electron microscope. Take any popular character of any real depth and you'll get equally convincing arguments for multiple alignments which may be more than one step from each other... because people ARE that complex.

Alignment is a crappy way of describing any character that's got more depth than an Ayn Rand cipher.

Alright. Well i tried reading the bible once and i just couldn't bring myself to read anymore and as far as my views go. Um i do not have to conform and become a copycat if i do not want too. Just because you decide to not believe in a god and read through the bible does not mean i have to conform and copy everything you do sir. And i know this alignment system was designed for something originally but i decided to believe in it, so you are allowed to believe we evolved from an ape? or that an explosion happened and we just came to be but how dare i choose to not conform and believe in something else? uh whats with the double standards? why am i denied my right to choose Lazar?

bbgenderless100 wrote:

The alignments i think i'm are: Chaotic Neutral,True Neutral,Neutral Good and either Chaotic Evil or

Neutral Evil.

From what I can tell your alignment is Seriously Undersocialised. I can relate because I've struggled with that problem myself. And we modern Americans are probably more susceptible to this than most other cultures.

Here's why alignment doesn't work in the real world. People are not unified patterns of thought the popular paradigm is that the inside of your mind is minature puppetmaster that serves as a master controller. And while it's a popular picture, it's completely wrong. As psychology has developed one of it's key discoveries is that many disorders are exaggerations of mormal mental processes. There's actually an episode of "Fairly Odd Parents" that gives a better picture of this than most.

Instead of a puppet master, your mind is more like a corporate boardroom full of contentious directors each with it's own viewpoint and agenda, and occasionally they operate at cross purposes. What we call a healthy unified mind is the same thing that a corporate board presents to the outside world, a convincing facade of unity for public consumption. Some people however have problems maintaining that facade of unity. Among the results of that breakdown are things such as multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia.

Real living people are too complex to describe in terms of alignment. What you label them by are from the small circumscribed bits of interaction, while the observations may be useful, they are more in the term of that classic parable of three blind men describing an elephant.

Okay, well the alignment system makes alot more sense then the Bible and anything similar to it.

Thanks for your feedback?

I dun even give a f%@+.

Guess that makes me True Neutral.

That sounds like True Neutral.

What is the OP?

I don;t see anything evil in the OP. Let's say the OP plots habitually to sleep with people or physically to hurt them because that's an acceptable price to pay (like currency) for getting what s/he wants, or because s/he gets as much as the pain they cause as the pleasure they receive. That's evil. Maybe that person gets a charge out of corrupting or breaking the spirits of others - evil. Just selfishly not trusting people out of a disappointed sense of entitlement and getting one's frowney face on because they prefer instant gratification over the inconvenience they place on others strikes me as a few descriptive words, but evil isn't one of them.

I'd also say the subject of motivation comes up. This anonymous person probably has poor self-esteem, is not motivated and lacks accountability. A little help providing those things might help that person realize that by working hard and putting yourself in position to give, you get a lot more satisfaction out of life.

TN? CN?

Interesting.

and LN leaning Good or even LG with a huge lean towards Law fits you like a glove for sure in my opinion.

This is very interesting to say the least.

@ElyasRavenwood posting links to quizzes takes away from its original intents, i would've posted quizzes if i wanted them here but i do not. This is for individuals to discuss their alignments based on their knowledge of themselves and to give it a shot as to what the OP is or might be according to them.

I do not want to click the links, if you are too lazy to guess the OP just say it already ha ha.

Perhaps you might be LG, but maybe you aren't.

You're not remotely evil, unless you specifically enjoy or engineer the suffering of others. You might not care what people do, but you aren't out to destroy them for fun or profit.

I have always thought of myself as LN with both the good and evil subtypes, but that's more a joke about my GMing style. I think I am LN, aspiring to "any good" as the condition necessitates. I believe in law and order, including a divinely mandated morality, but I also believe dogma hampers mercy and grace, which are paramount. However, I only aspire to be good, and my sinful, selfish nature sometimes wins out.

I think these discussions are cool. I get tired of people complaining about an alignment system instead of looking at its merits or the facts that there are overlap and tendencies in every person. Get busted making out with my teenage daughter and I change from LG Expert to CN barbarian.

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Are you talking about the OP or the other guy? and if the OP isn't an evil alignment, then which Neutral alignment is it then?

1.Luck is not the best.

2.I would be denied my money someway somehow.

3. The only way a million dollars would be any good, is if i had the freedom to do whatever i want with it which i wouldn't guaranteed.

I will fight out of your brain, freedommmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

The alignments i think i'm are: Chaotic Neutral,True Neutral,Neutral Good and either Chaotic Evil or
Neutral Evil.

I don't really trust anyone or anything at all because they all tend to oppress my freedom to do whatever i want to do which is what i long for and really only care about despite seeming like i don't. I also can be really lazy when it comes to everything and anything. I believe that good and bad are subjective as what one person views as good another will view as bad etc. For example: I slept with my good friend who is dating someone at the moment
some will consider me evil because of this or Neutral, however he offered to do it with me when i brought it up in a conversation one night and then he changed his mind while doing it with me so i stopped due to him changing his mind. I was so enjoying it until he stopped and since then i've been upset with him. So
because i sensed that he was gonna kill the enjoyment for me somehow, afterwards and still am irritated that he backed out. I also have gone and sold a christmas present after being told not to for money, because i was craving Popcorn at the time. I also for the longest time made it out to look like i forgave my mom but really i went over to her place with her current lover to eat and so she can't say that i don't see her at all.
I will always respect her for bringing me into this world but don't trust her.

I also believe that people should be free to do whatever they want, however whatever they end up doing with that freedom is on them to deal with not me.

I don't use violence but don't consider myself a pacifist because if i could find a way to use it with my lack of upper body strength i would.

I also don't like being told no but tend to swallow my feelings about the issue and pretend like i don't.

Edit:Which alignment or alignments do you think you are? and which of them is this OP?

Will be interesting to see the responses.

A combination of all alignments you listed it sounds like.