Well, I could talk of my 25 years of gaming and what I'll miss or didn't like here and there, but all Ill say is "thanks Erik" not a bad few years of gaming this 3rd edition. You and the staff have made a good product. I will take a look at pathfinder. I will not do pdf, have not, and maybe have found a way to kick my "mini" habit. Glad I know how to paint figs... and I still have those AD&D books, humm?