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Well it appears I just didn't look hard enough, thanks! Next time I'll pull up the PDF so I can do a word search.

Rulebook wrote:

The When Closing section on some locations requires you to summon and defeat (or acquire) a card. Summon and encounter it; if you do not defeat (or acquire) it, the location is not closed.

Good points everyone, thank you. I definitely now see where just using encounter doesn't clarify that the check would need to be successful. Perhaps acquire or encounter vs. acquire could be added to the glossary/additional rules in future rulebooks (especially if it's usage continues). It's just that why we're discussing it here the points made by Rebel Song and A. Klein illustrate the obvious difference, but when seeing it for the first time, my experience was more in line with encoderdude's comment, it isn't as obvious. Like I said, simply my 2 cents.

People have asked this question before.

"Summon and defeat" leaves no question that you have to make the check(s) to defeat in order to succeed.

For some reason, "summon and acquire" isn't as obvious. People wonder whether they have to make the check to acquire, or if they automatically acquire the card in question.

Adding another sentence to clarify this seems too verbose. Perhaps a FAQ is in order.

Thank you, I'm glad I did that right, and yes I was referring to Vagorg in reference to looking for a card and banishing. Nasty little power there, glad Alain so easily defeated him. I thought I was being slick by burying her (Irabeth).

As for a 2 cents suggestion, I know summon and acquire is short and sweet, but does summon and encounter make more sense? Keeps text consistent with rules terminology. If the acquiring is critical to closing that could be detailed with another short sentence. I realize economy of text is critical, but (and maybe it's just really me) interpretation of that sentence seems like it could vary.

Thanks again for the help.

Vagorg wrote:

Before you act, Vargorg deals 2 Force damage to you.

If undefeated, shuffle a random monster from the box into Vagorg's location deck; search your cards for a cohort that has the Mendevian trait and banish it.
If defeated, you may immediately attempt to close the location this henchman came from.

WotR Rulebook p10 wrote:

Your cards include your deck, the cards in your hand and your buried, discarded, and displayed cards. You can look through your displayed, discarded, and buried cards at any time. You may not look through your character deck unless a card specifically allows it.

Irabeth Tirabade wrote:

Reveal this card and recharge a weapon, an armor, or an item to add 1d6 plus the scenario's adventure deck number to any Diplomacy or Melee check by a character at your location.

Bury this card to reduce all damage dealt to a character at your location by the scenario's adventure deck number. Then you may draw a card.

1. Yes. You should also have drawn a card.

2. Yes, buried cards are included. (You can technically look at the buried cards whenever you want, but I think you were asking if the buried cards were possible for his banish power.)

Addtl 1: You mean something like the Armory's "Summon and acquire a weapon" closing requirement? You have to attempt to acquire it, just like if it said "Summon and defeat a monster" you'd have to attempt to defeat it. Whether it is closed or not depends on whether you are successful.

Okay, so I checked the FAQ, searched and scrolled through several pages, couldn't find this topic.

This has to do with Vagorg's power requiring that if he's undefeated you have to search your cards for card with Mendevian trait and banish it. (might not have exact wording correct)

I encountered him using Alain and had Irabeth in hand. Before you act Vagorg does 2 points of force damage. I used Irabeth to mitigate that damage and per card instructions buried her.

My questions are:
1. Did I play this right?
2. If I did lose (luckily he has a low combat check number and Alain slaughtered him) does Vagorg's search allow him to look at buried cards?

Additional question:
I believe I've seen this answered but don't remember where.
1. If the "when closing" requirement in draw and acquire "boon", does that require a check or is it automatic?