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He isn't wearing any weapons, only his claws. In this case, the attack sequence is more of a "Two Weapon Rend" than a pounce, I guess. The point here is if he could continue the movement after making the pounce.


So long story-short: You cannot stack the benefits for those abilities, am I right?


But what happens if you are BOTH RIDER AND MOUNT? More specific: A Wemic? (If you are not certain of what a Wemic is, please feel free to check out this link: http://www.gemmaline.com/races/wemic.gif )

In the racial traits description is this:

*Racial Feats: None, but wemics can acquire the Spirited Charge and Trample feats (ignoring the prerequisites) and apply the benefits to their own melee attacks.

*Natural Attacks: Wemics can make 2 claw attacks, dealing 1d6 points of damage each. A wemic can attack with a onehanded weapon at his normal attack bonus, and make a claw attack as a secondary attack (–5 penalty on the attack roll, and half Strength bonus on the damage roll).

Given they're feline characters, they are entitled to Pounce. What happens in this case when they are making a Spirited charge, Pounce, and then finish the move? They have the meanings to do that in this case (as noted in the feats' rules), and the book does not specify one way or the other. How could it be possible? (if it could be).

Again, sorry for my English...


First of all; Hi, everyone! I'm new here, and sorry for bring this back up again, but I have this question:

What happens if you choose a Wemic and have Ride by Attack and Pounce? If I'm thinking right, you CAN NOT use those feats together.

*Provided that Ride by Attack works when you are mounted on something (let's say a horse). In that case you charge, and may finish your movement passing through your foe.

*Pounce says that you can make a full attack with your natural weapons (let's say 4 arms).

Those 2 feats function correctly if you are either rider OR mount. The real question is: What happens if you are both rider AND mount? In specific, a Wemic?

This is the situation (which, by the way led into an hour argument with players and master, then decided by master's will):

Wemic lvl 10th charges and wants to use the above mentioned feats, all the attacks land, and then rakes the target. Is that even possible? I'm aware of the noted rules in both feats, but again, they work only if you are rider OR mount, not both at the same time...

Thank you in advance, and excuse my english, but it's not my native language.


First of all; Hi, everyone! I'm new here, and sorry for bring this back up again, but I have this question:

What happens if you choose a Wemic and have Ride by Attack and Pounce? If I'm thinking right, you CAN NOT use those feats together.

*Provided that Ride by Attack works when you are mounted on something (let's say a horse). In that case you charge, and may finish your movement passing through your foe.

*Pounce says that you can make a full attack with your natural weapons (let's say 4 arms).

Those 2 feats function correctly if you are either rider OR mount. The real question is: What happens if you are both rider AND mount? In specific, a Wemic?

This is the situation (which, by the way led into an hour argument with players and master, then decided by master's will):

Wemic lvl 10th charges and wants to use the above mentioned feats, all the attacks land, and then rakes the target. Is that even possible? I'm aware of the noted rules in both feats, but again, they work only if you are rider OR mount, not both at the same time...

Thank you in advance, and excuse my english, but it's not my native language.


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