Yücel Okçu
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Yücel Okçu wrote:Is there anyway to make your opponent helpless by using bare hands and then use coup de grace? Think of a tough guy from a movie, pins his target and puts his knife on opponent's neck. If the target moves, he uses coup de grace and kills him. Is it possible by using RAW?
Pinned condition says no. Helpless condition is a little bit confusing. It says "A helpless character is paralyzed, 'held', bound, sleeping, unconscious, or otherwise completely at an opponent's mercy." Does pinning mean 'holding'?
I'm not sure it's possible using the RAW, but the rules DO let you do it anyway.
The easiest way to do this is to simply use unarmed strike and let that be the weapon you use to administer the coup de grace; since that's non-lethal, a success would only knock the foe out rather than kill. If you want to kill, you'd grapple and then use lethal damage as part of a sustained grapple to coup de grace instead.
So by setting aside RAW, does it work as the following?
1-) I grappled my opponent.2-) I maintained the grapple and pinned my opponent as part of standard action.
3-) I maintained the grapple and delivered coup de grace.
