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I have one more question/concern. I've been reading the 2nd Edition Core Rulebook.

What does everyone think about the rule of spending all your Hero Points to avoid death?

It seems something like that could be could be overly used. Even if you have just 1 point, you can blow it and not die. Just seems kind of a weird rule.


Claxon wrote:
breithauptclan wrote:

I only know what the Paizo team has said - which is that the rules themselves are not changing much. There is the standard errata level changes that happens every time they run another print run. But in addition to that they are doing some re-ordering of things like moving which book a particular class is printed in. There is one big change and that is the removal of alignment by that name. There are some similar mechanics that are being put in place to replace it.

One thing that they note is that with the bulk of the rules not changing, there is no hard requirement to get the new printings of the books if you already have the older ones. I don't intend to do that - I will just keep using my old books and the errata changes listed online.

While this is all correct, I feel it's also important to state why this is being done.

For anyone not familiar, Wizards of the Coast tried to pull the rug out from underneath the TTRPG industry by attempting to alter the Open Gaming License (OGL). And while it was unclear if they actually could and whether it would be enforceable the other big players in the field decided the best response was to make their own license, the Open RPG Creative License.

Because the older books were published under OGL, it is possible that Wizards could try some additional shenanigans at some point. So they are revising the products to remove anything covered by OGL, making some errata updates, and also taking this as an opportunity to makes some other tweaks to the game. All the fundamentals remain the same, and your old versions of the game books all remain valid.

Thank you, Claxon. I figured it was probably a more legal thing and then taking the opportunity to tweak some rules along the way. I appreciate the info.


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I've read through this and caught up on the ORC license. This basically sounds like a rewrite for the benefit of the ORC license and a tweak to stuff as an added bonus...and to keep WOTC from messing with the game.

Just please don't jumble up and mess up a good rule system like WOTC has done with D&D. They just can't leave it alone and break it more than improve it.


What do you guys know about the new core books coming out in October/November?

Thank you for your replies and assistance.


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I feel like the Paizo website as a whole is a bit unorganized for new prospective players. I say this because I just bought the 2nd Edition of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook hardcover edition when it was on backorder. I finally received the book and was confused on if that is all I really needed to get things started.

As I started browsing the forums, I find out about this Second Edition Remaster Project. Nowhere on the main website page is this brought up or announced or discussed. I'm sure a lot of you guys who are advanced players know how to find every piece of information on this site but it is not laid out well for new visitors.

As a result, I feel like I may have wasted $60 on a book that will be replaced in 6 months.

Please update your site and better organize your book listings for newbies. It would be appreciated.


I just bought the latest hardcover of the Pathfinder 2nd Ed. Core Rulebook to get started with the game. Is this the only book I really need to play or to run a pre-made dungeon for my friends?

When I click on the Pathfinder 2nd Edition link on the website, all these other books pop up and it's very confusing. If the above book contains player guide, DM guide, and Bestiary then why do I need another $60 Bestiary book and stuff like that? (shrug)

All the books should be laid out in the order a new player should purchase them because they are all kind of jumbled in one area. Thank you.