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I'm about to start in a level 15 mini campaign where the elemental planes have crashed into the world, the elementals have gone mad and have pretty much killed everyone. We're supposed to be playing as a group of heroes/survivors that are trying to turn the tide against the elementals.

I'm going to be playing a fighter (no multi classing/dipping). Yes a fighter, not a ranger, even though favored enemy: elementals would probably be useful in this campaign. I was thinking about playing a critical focused build until I realized elementals are immune to that.

Are there any feats, items or class options I should consider that are good at countering/dealing with elementals?

When you use the change shape from biped you use the statistics of your new base form. Any evolutions that only apply while in biped form are lost while you are in your other form. The size change does not modify the ability scores, reach, or weapon damage of the eidolon unless they would be reduced.

So you would lose the biped's free evolutions (to gain the quadrupeds) and you would actually change the biped's "Str 16, Dex 12, Con 13, Int 7, Wis 10, Cha 11" stat array to the quadruped's "Str 14, Dex 14, Con 13, Int 7, Wis 10, Cha 11" stat array each time it changed form?

change shape oes not alter any abilities so leave them alone. you would adjust carring because of 4 legs. if the base form gets claws than yes, so hands become claws and so forth. acts alot like a polymorph effect

So this feat lets you effectively keep the base str/dex and saves of a biped eidolon while in quadruped (mount) form, but you lose the biped's free evolutions to gain the quadruped free evolutions? or are you saying you keep the biped's free evolutions when changing shape into a quadruped?

If its the latter does that mean you do or dont get the quadruped form's bite attack?

If a chained summoner has a biped eidolon and then takes the "Eidolon Mount" feat, do they need to recalculate the eidolon's starting strength / dexterity and their base saving throws when the eidolon uses change shape, and does the eidolon lose the claws evolution and gain the bite evolution when doing so?

The only place I can find mention of "spell domain" is an RPGBOT "cleric archetype breakdown" where the term is used to mean simply domain. Now obviously thats just some random internet guy who made a guide, but the term appears absolutely nowhere in any pathfinder product except this one ability.

If "spell domains" does mean specifically "domain spells"/"spells you're able to prepare in your domain spell slots" and you're saying that it swaps out the spells but not the powers, that makes the option to change your domains pretty pointless, given that as per the last line you already add the mythic source spells to those you can cast WITHOUT changing your domain to those you grant others. Meaning you'd potentially just be limiting the different spells you can cast by giving up your previous domain spells, which I hardly think was the intent.

One last thing, though, regardless of whether or not "spell domains" means what you think it means or not, you never actually stated whether or not you think the archetype and the mythic option are compatible / which one takes precedent.

I'm leaning toward this as being the best explanation so far:

Since Divine Source is already establishing that you may alter your domains from those you would ordinarily be locked into, I don't see a reason why it would not apply to other domains that you would ordinarily be locked into for other reasons e.g. the undead lord archetype.

With any luck, if I put that across to my DM he should agree as well.

Another player just pointed out that the archetype only says that you must "select" the death domain when you take the level in cleric, it doesnt mention anything about being unable to trade it out later if an ability gave you the chance (like mythic source does).

I dont know if he's right, but I think the power of becoming a deity should trump an archetype anyway if he's wrong.

I dont know if there is any FAQs relating to archetype - mythic interactions unfortunately.

Is the other players reasoning the best i've got to approach my DM with, or are there better points I could put across?

My Undead Lord Cleric has just hit 5th mythic tier and I was thinking about taking mythic source.

The undead lord archetype says:
"An undead lord must select the Death domain (and the Undead subdomain). She does not gain a second domain."
Mythic source says:
"If you’re a cleric or you venerate a deity, you may change your spell domains to those you grant others."

When I gain mythic source, can I change my domain, as per the mythic ability, or am I still locked in to the death domain due to my archetype?

Does one overrule the other? / Will this be entirely based on the DM choice or is there a precedent one way or the other?