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2. Use stone shape to make a room 600 ft inside a hill (or under your home) to store your phylactery, a spare set of spellbooks, a replacement body (treated with unguent of timelessness or wearing a custom-made continuous effect gentle repose item), and possibly some spare magic items (such as a scroll of dimension door and a small bag of holding); then cast mage's private sanctum and permanency before using stone shape to fully fill in the entry passage (and all other openings). Each time you are "killed," you just need to get another replacement body after fully recovering (using dimension door to enter and exit; you can carry a corpse in the bag of holding).

this is brilliant!


MageHunter wrote:
Goat God wrote:

Boom - http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/daywalker

(Sorry I don't know how to make it all fancy)

Made it fancy for you. :)

Boom

you good sir have boomed my dynamite!


Well my character is already evil, but not scummy evil or kill the innocent evil. more of "ends justify the means"/he is incredoubly selfish/he's not above drowning an unconscious enemy evil. Paladin already knows that and we do have our moments of disagreement (mainly with continuing to drown unconcious enemies... seriously love aquaeous orb!) but my wizard is smart enough to let the paladin think that he will agree to what the paladin demands when it comes to lesser things, all the while working on this much grater thing (lich); and the paladin is kind of stuck working with me since my character is the last surviving original party member (thanks to some very bad rolls) and the only one with the knowledge of how to defeat the big bad we are working towards. So there wont be any change in alignment aura when I become a lich.

That is an awesome idea about the phylactery of faithfulness. Are there any items that can change one's aura from evil to good? Maybe I can convince the paladin that I have changed my ways and am offering a peace gift, and he will be none the wiser that I am a lord of the undead?


Pizza Lord wrote:

1. Blending in is going to be hard, since most creatures that look at you are going to run away in fear or at least be shaken. Whether you can suppress that or whether that's based on your appearance (hat of disguise for instance) might be negotiable.

2. Other planes are great because a lot of divinations and such have trouble crossing planar boundaries. Created demi-planes are also good because you can typically restrict who can and cannot get into one.

I don't personally like the idea of trying to make a phylactery impossible to get to (I've never been a lich though). I tend to think such things are a bit cheesy, though to each their own. I prefer good old misdirection. First, you could leave a 'copy' of your notes somewhere, where it describes your plan to build the phylactery (the basic tiny box that holds your soul) but that's just what everyone expects. You've really made your phylactery into a ring or an amulet and further enchanted into a really decent item that they aren't likely to just trade out (you're a lich, if you can't handle making an item like that while doing your phylactery then you aren't ready). Maybe you've already given it to PCs (how often do they ever actually permanently lose magic items?). Possibly you've done it through an agent who had them go on some quest, either for the purpose of of believably handing the item off to them, or because you actually wanted them to gather you something for your own goals and research.

Now they've got what they think is a +3 ring of protection and featherfall which is also your phylactery and doesn't even detect as evil (likely unless you're killed and your soul's in it) and they're all looking for a box because that's what your notes say. Of course, you've also made a magic box that looks just like a stereotypical evil phylactery and you've even got a magic mouth set inside (it's lead-lined as well as unopenable) that's set to just scream out "NOoooooo!" if the box is destroyed.

Presumably if you die,...

sorry for the delay in response. Good ideas! One of my concerns is that the party does have a paladin. yes I know by the book rules he would lose his class abilities for even being in the same party as me without constant atonement. GM is house ruling that as long as my true identity is unknown to him he wont suffer any ill effects since we have fudged the rules for paladins anyway and they can be any good or true lawful (plan B is obviously the litch thing to do about it...). Hat of disguise or the like will obviously be used, and paizo does say that litches can prevent rot by eating and drinking like a normal person). Good call about the fear aura, I forgot about that. It could possibly be chalked up to my wizard being known as not very approachable by the huddled masses and a little infamous for his cruelty towards his enemies, but I should find a way where I could turn it off.

I do admit half of my concern about my phylactory is paladin based. I dont think the GM would create an NPC party to go hunting for it. The other half is just flavor based for my character, since he obviously would want his phylactory to be as protected as possible. I do like the idea of making it too valuable for someone to want to destroy it, but it would be nice if there was a way for it to inspire greed to a sinister level (like the golden poop from American Dad or the One Ring).


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Sorry if this has been asked before (almost positive at least part of it has not but I apologize if it has) but I have a 2 part request for advice:
1: my DM has recently given me the green light to pursue my quest for lichdom! However my character is more of the blend in type than the stand out type and is looking for ways to hide his lichyness to all extents possible. It has been house ruled that my character may pick up the Life-Dominant Soul feat to at least partially hide from detection from channeled positive energy used for healing, but I could certainly use some more help for "blending in" even if it comes at the expense of the bonuses that come from being a lich.
2: I've heard that demi-planes are the best place to keep a phylactory safe, is there a way to further protect it within a plane such as limiting who can enter it or hiding the plane among another plane/etc?

thank you everyone for your help and sorry if this has been asked already.