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is this really real? If yes i'm wondering why there aren't any posts about it?
Ohboy ohboy ohboy i'm really excited about this :)
Any chance getting an official confirmation ?
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Hi to all.
1)Why balance? I know there are many people out there who say that balance isn`t that important. Dnd is a team game, good roleplayers do not need balance, good gamemasters don`t need balance etc. i heard it all. So if you have another opinion please don`t post it. Its only because almost everytime i read about balancing issues in a mesageboard they ended up in flaming wars.... Imho balance is one of the most important issues within a rules system. Perhaps it`s because i originally come from the strategy gamers faction or perhaps it is because i`ve seen to often what unbalanced rulesystems can do. Its simply no fun playing a dwarven fighter with a battlehammer when the cleric does more damage (cause he took the longsword and rolled a 18strengh) or playing a nimble light armored knive fighter when the knight next to you has a better AC and damage output . I know a „real“ roleplayer would play it anyway but i don`t think that such players should be punished by the system. 2)Why maths? Well believe me: I HATE maths! But as im relatively new to the 3.X edition it`s the only way for me too contribute. (i have never encountered CoDzilla for example). Another reason is that my group wants to finish our actuall 3.5 campaign before we begin the RotRL AP.
Ok thats beeing said, what have i done? Well basically i made for every warrior class a level 10char and then i let them fight each other. For simplicitys sake i let the fighter fight each other class. If the paladin is equal to the fighter and the ranger is equal to the fighter then the paladin should be equal to the ranger(at least thats what i think).
Ok here are the characters: Spoiler:
Fighter St 20 Con 16 Dex 14 Wi10 Int10 Cha10 Feats: Dodge, Imp. Crit (Greatsword), 2xToughness, WeaponFocus (Greatsword), Imp. WeaponFocus(Greatsword), WeaponSpezialisation (Greatsword), Improved WeaponSpecialisation (Greatsword),Overhand Chop, Backswing, PowerAttack, Gear: Greatsword +2, Full Plate +1, ring of protection +1 Barbarian stats like the fighter Feats: Imp. Crit (Greatsword), Weapon Focus (Greatsword),Overhand Chop, Backswing, PowerAttack, Gear: like fighter but instead of a fullplate he has chainmail. I know in this case he has spent 1000gp less but i dont really know what to buy with these... Ranger St 18 Con 14 Dex 15 Wi13 Int10 Cha10 Feats: Two weapon fighting, Improved Two weapon fighting, Double Slice(i used the normal st with backhand version though i dont know which one is the real one in the beta), Dodge, Imp. Critical (shortsword), Weapon Focus (shortsword), Toughness, Two Weapon defense, Gear: Chainshirt+2, ring of protection +1, amulet of natural armor +1, 2x shortsword +1
And here comes the fight. Spoiler:
Fighter vs. Barbarian Fighter Fighter Attack Bonus: 21/16
Barbarian (with rage and using the „unexpected strike“ power) Attack Bonus: 20/20/15
Fighter hits Barbarian: 1.Attack: 95%HitChance x 27 = 25,65 Dmg
That makes a total Dmg of 48,45 per round.
Barbarian hits fighter: 1.Attack: 80%HitChance x 27 = 21,6 Dmg
That makes a total Dmg of 52,38 per round.
So as we can see the barbarian is slightly stronger than the fighter but only for the 4 rounds he can maintain his rage (with the unexpected strike). Fighter vs. Ranger Fighter Fighter Attack Bonus: 21/16
Ranger Attack Bonus: 21/21/16/16 (two weapon penalty and +6 Favored enemy included)
Fighter hits Ranger: 3.Attack: 90%HitChance x 29,4 = 26,46 Dmg
That makes a total Dmg of 43,62 per round.
Ranger hits fighter: 1.Attack: 85%HitChance x 15,5 = 13,175 Dmg
That makes a total Dmg of 44,95 per round.
So we can see that the Fighter is much stronger than the Ranger. And this is with the +6 Favored Enemy Bonus!!! Oh and the animal companion wouldn`t help at all. He would be death after one single strike and would have a 5% chance of hitting....
So what did this all say to us? Well the fighter needs no more boosts ( and believe me i never thought that i would say something like this. Normally i`m one of the guys who say: give more to the fighter...). He fights as good as the Barbarian and the Paladin and a buffed up War Cleric(i`ll post this fights in a day). But the Barbarian, Paladin and Cleric can maintain their Power only a few rounds (ok the cleric can do this veeeeeery long on lvl10...). The Ranger on the other Hand needs some boosting because he seriously lacks in power. Even with a sesond toughness feat instead of the two weapon defense he would last only for 2,47 rounds (which also prooves that toughness is a little to strong but there will be another time and place to discuss this). Ok if someone wants to know what changes i`ll do with our campaign, here they are: Spoiler:
Fighter: he will have the possibility to change feats (though i didn`t figure out the exact mechanic of this) he will get a CMB (perhaps ½ or 1/3 of his level) one additional class skill an ability with which he can analyse his enemy (like in BESM D20) Barbarian
Ranger: He gets +1AC every time he chosses a favored terrain in addition to the initiative bonus
Ok this were my 2cp. Everyone who read all of this is a real hero :)
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