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Yoshua wrote:

The comments on the new Ninja Division update is pure gold.

People asking for the .stl files.... That would be glorious, but no way Paizo would let their IP into the wild... Would they?

Obvious no one is getting a refund.

Best comment so far is the guy saying they should go back and find the people who told everyone Ninja Division was shady and would take the money and run.... And thank them/apologize for not listening. lol... That was just gold.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/325468910/starfinder-masterclass-minia tures/posts/2420184

I was one of those. Forcibly refunded once the campaign closed, so that I couldn't comment anymore. Didn't troll, make libellous accusations or scream obscenities at people. Just kept warning people to research ND's past project progress, and their habit of vanishing when tough questions were asked.

Best response I got was the guy who petulantly whined, and I quote, "You're yucking my yum". I don't need apologies from the doubters and the optimists, but I do wish I could ask that person what their yum tastes like now.


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I'm one of the guys that went all in ND's Super Dungeon Explore Legends (their oldest undelivered campaign).

Unlike us Kickstarter backers who have no realistic legal standing, Paizo presumably does through whatever licensing agreements they have. ND can just shrug and walk away from the other projects, citing the stated risks of crowdfunding and all the caveats in the terms of service, but they can't get off the hook that easily with whatever contractual obligations they have to Paizo.

Getting ND to finish the Starfinder Masterclass campaign seems unlikely. Same with getting refunds, even partial ones. There's no money to produce minis, no money to give refunds, and no money to pay lawsuit judgements. But there is their IP...

It's a long shot, but I wanted to toss it out there. If by some scenario Paizo gained control of ND's IP, like in lieu of a monetary settlement, I want to assure them that it still holds decent value. If Paizo (or someone else) acquired control of the brands and put them under new management, many of the fans would gladly come back. We still love the products, we just hate the idea of giving another cent to ND.