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It does seem like a great control spell, I just wish it was more clear on a few scenarios it would probably be used for.

Hello all,

I've searched and found several threads regarding Aqueous Orb but no concrete ruling for the following two questions. If I missed the relevant thread please direct me there.

First, can you hit the same target with this spell over and over again during the 30 foot move/round allowed for this spell? Reading through the text there doesn't seem to be anything disallowing this. I'm also not sure if that is broken or not as to do so you would be giving up attempting to engulf other creatures with the movement. Thoughts?

Secondly what happens if the orb is directed off a cliff or into a Pit via create pit? Do the unfortunate souls inside take full falling damage? Perhaps would the fall be considered onto a yielding surface? Or no falling damage due to protection from the Orb? Also the text for the spell states "An aqueous orb stops if it moves outside the spell's range". Does that mean if you hurl it off a giant chasm and the spell range doesn't reach the bottom the sphere stops in mid air? Or does the spell end?

Thanks for any help!

Thanks all, nice to clear this up.

They might be "ignoring" blindness because they're saving against the effect. Glitterdust doesn't have a mega DC after all.

If there had been rolling behind a screen I'd say that was an option, but this was PFS and pretty much everyone rolls in front of the screen (as was the case for all the times this came up).

Also even if there isn't hidden rolls I'd imagine it'd be pretty obvious when something is blind or not. "Is it flailing around or staggering about?" If the answer is yes then I bet it's blind. Reading thoughts doesn't tell you how to navigate uneven floor.

I'm not considering a blind telepath, both questions are based on demons who have been A) Ignoring blindness from Glitterdust to locate and attack people and B) Teleport out of compromising situations like grapple or flank (especially when they get low on HP so they go warn the BBEG)

The recent demon incursion in PFS has prompted a few rules clarifications, first does telepathy let the user know the location of everyone around them, specifically if the user cannot see them? Reading the description it doesn't seem like it would - the telepathy ability reads:

"Telepathy (Su)
The creature can mentally communicate with any other creature within a certain range (specified in the creature’s entry, usually 100 feet) that has a language. It is possible to address multiple creatures at once telepathically, although maintaining a telepathic conversation with more than one creature at a time is just as difficult as simultaneously speaking and listening to multiple people at the same time"

This doesn't mention location. Also detect thoughts, which is a very similar concept, specifically mentions that creatures cannot be located using the spell unless they can be seen.

Also, does using Greater Teleport as a spell-like (such as what demons have) provoke AoOs? Reading the below description makes it seem like they would:

"Usually, a spell-like ability works just like the spell of that name. A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus. The user activates it mentally. Armor never affects a spell-like ability's use, even if the ability resembles an arcane spell with a somatic component.

A spell-like ability has a casting time of 1 standard action unless noted otherwise in the ability or spell description. In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell"

I haven't seen anything that says they wouldn't provoke, and it seems like the AoO comes into play when the caster is distracted for the standard action it takes to cast the spell, but I have heard they don't provoke because they are only mental activation and that they don't provoke because Greater Teleport only has verbal components.

Can anyone provide insight into these? Thanks!