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Those are just quick HP, they're the average number rolled for their die type. I'm sure you can still roll. I think one of the 3.5 books gives an option like this too.

That makes sense. I could see people making a case for it the other way since it can read that way though so i'm hoping official word comes in on it.

The Sudden metamagic feats do not affect spells directly, and thus cannot be used with Metamagic Mastery.

Could you clarify that? It doesn't effect the spell because it says "may apply the effect of..." right? But its still a metamagic feat so it seems like you'd be able use it with mastery.

So if i read that right the spells don't take a higher level slot in your system. That does make metamagic more attractive but whats your solution to the huge power gain that wizards and clerics don't really need? Whats to stop a level 7 wizard from maximizing all the ist level spells he casts?

mike F: I meant realistically gun armed peasants could take out knights. Theres no rule that says knight have to have levels though, they could just be generic npc warrior class with knight style gear. I know for game balance they'd end up being a 2d4 range touch or something. They're always either lame or far out of balance when i see them written up for a fantasy system.

You are right about the wizards though, d&ds magic system would let them walk all over people with guns. Spells like protection from missles and invisibility would stop peasants with guns cold. Assuming the guns did damage balanced for d20 and not the huge amount of damage games like gurps and hero system have them do.

I'm against guns in the core rules btw. I could handle them if they introduced them sparingly in some later adventure but thats about it.

In gurps fantasy they explain that gunpowder has been invented at least 3 times but whenever it happens and mages hear about it they wipe out the inventor and anyone he might have taught. Guns do make an unskilled peasant a match for an armored knight or wizard so it stands to reason that the knights and wizards would stop it from being used as weapons.

In 20 years i've never played with a group that used the wizard spellbook rules. I'll continue to ignore them whatever pathfinder has for them.

Says ANY one weapon.