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Lynceus, Vod Canockers, and Lipto the Shiv have convinced me well enough with their arguments. I honestly didn't want the game to be broken, I just wanted to know where it says it isn't. I think that this quote pretty much answers the issue, as it does seem to imply that the table sets the limit:

"The ability that governs bonus spells depends on what type of spellcaster your character is: Intelligence for wizards; Wisdom for clerics, druids, and rangers; and Charisma for bards, paladins, and sorcerers. In addition to having a high ability score, a spellcaster must be of a high enough class level to be able to cast spells or use spell slots of a given level. See the class descriptions in chapter 3 for details."

Thank you, guys, and thanks Matt Thomason for bearing with me. :)

It does not say I can't cast a spell that has a - in that column, though. Your quote only says that the base spell allotment is found there. That is not nearly the same as what you are stating.

That is the base daily spell allotment. My arcane school changes that base. It adds spell slots for every spell I can cast. That quote that you have does not say that I "can cast only spells of the level that the table show." It merely says that I "can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day." We already know this.

Where in the book does it say that a spell level I can cast is a spell that I already have a slot for in the "Spells per day" table on P80?

I showed you where it says I get a level 9 slot. :\

"Therefore, since I get spell slots all the way up to level 9 from my arcane school: 'specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up.', I am able to cast the level 9 spell in that slot."

I'm afraid that doesn't add up with what is in the book. :\

The list for progression that you two are referring to is called "Spells per day" I am sure that is another way of saying "Spell slots per day" That means that you do get those slots, but clearly the book is telling us that we also get slots based on what spells we "can cast".

It tells us in this quote: "To learn, prepare, or cast a spell, the wizard must have an Intelligence score equal to at least 10 + the spell level." That means that I "can cast" spells up to level 9 if I have an int of 20. It very clearly says this.

Therefore, since I get spell slots all the way up to level 9 from my arcane school: "specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up.", I am able to cast the level 9 spell in that slot.

What I'd really like to see is the place in the book where it says "The level of spell you 'can cast' is the same as the spell slot level you would gain based on your class."

Where does it say that?

What grants the ability to cast the spell? I have the spell slot, what else do I need?

But it specifically says... "specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up." I CAN cast a level 9 spell. I have the intelligence for it... Where is the leap? This is clearly directly from the two statements. :\

I would gain the slots from my arcane school, as it says above. I get one slot for every level I can cast up to level 9. I can cast level 9 spells based on my intelligence.

Can you please explain your answer. It says:

"To learn, prepare, or cast a spell, the wizard must have an Intelligence score equal to at least 10 + the spell level."

This means that the casting requirement for a level 9 spell is 19 Intelligence. I have 20 in this example.

This can't be how it works, but all the information I can find points toward this being possible...

If I reach level 1 as a spell caster and I have an intelligence of 20, then I get two new spells of any level that I can cast, as it says here:

"Each time a character attains a new wizard level, he gains two spells of his choice to add to his spellbook. The two free spells must be of spell levels he can cast."

So technically with an intelligence of 20 I can learn a level 9 spell. The trouble, then, is how do I gain a spell slot to cast the spell? The answer is apparently specializing in an arcane school... It says here:

"specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up."

This would mean that I have at least 1 spell slot for every spell level all the way up to 9... Therefore, I can actually cast my level 9 spell one time per day at caster level 1... Is it just me, or does this make no sense? If this is really how it works, then it is fine with me, but I have a hard time believing it. Nevertheless, I've been all over the books and the internet, and nothing contradicts it so far.

Please advise! Thank you.