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SuperBidi wrote:

To be more thorough, I think I would handle it that way as a DM:

- If the creature is an unintelligent one, it doesn't understand the concept of absurd. Even 2 points of damage wouldn't trigger a Perception check.
- If the creature has very low intelligence (like an animal), anything that would kill a human would be ok, so 10 points of damage. The creature doesn't know what a Barbarian is.
- If the creature is intelligent but is not humanoid and hasn't succeeded at a recall knowledge check to recognize the party, then anything that would kill a human would be ok, unless the creature has external information that it would be illogical (like Cordell says with his impaled example).
- If the creature is an intelligent humanoid who's clearly aware it is facing a high level Barbarian (because of the rage, the runed weapon and armor, and all these signs of high level), then I may trigger a Perception check on any normal attack delivered when the Barbarian is still quite fresh. But not on a critical hit, as it is by definition a nasty blow.

thanks for the input really helped me wrap my mind around this spell. I agree with Superbidi that is a good way to judge it.


One of my players, who plays the cleric in my group. He believes the spell as written that no matter the damage as long as it was a critical hit the use of the spell should be allowed without the monster's perception check. I trip to simplify by saving if the hit drops you below 50 percent health, or you are below 1/2 health when you take the hit. I will not run the perception check.

I would like some input on how other DM's deal with the spell. If you rule differently let me know why.


Thank you! was having a hard time finding clear rules about the companion rules.


When you command and animal to stride and strike as your finial action in a round were you already attacked twice. Will your animal companion take the -10 to strike or is his strike action separate from yours?


When you command and animal to stride and strike as your finial action in a round were you already attacked twice. Will your animal companion take the -10 to strike or is his strike action separate from yours?