I am currently making a succubus PC, using the racial class to start her at level 1, I already have the mechanics down, having done this before, but I am stuck in a quandry as to multi-classing her. I am thinking of doing a rogue, and leading into a shadow dancer when high enough levels, but the thought of sorcerer keeps nagging at the back of my mind, and there is the possibility of a class I have overlooked that would suite her better. I am planning on keeping with the whole succubus mystique, of a subtle manipulator. Also I was wondering if anyone would have any ideas on a suitable mount, I was toying with the idea of a half fiend unicorn (black unicorn for 3.5 players), any thoughts are welcome Tera
Joynt Jezebel wrote:
Why keep a succubus around? Hmm, lets analyze that for a moment. A creature who's entire existence revolves around passion and sex, is immortal, never sleeps, never eats, and is constantly ready to go for another round. Yeah sounds great at first, but if she never lets you up for air, you will die within a week, if she hasn't gotten bored with you and sucked your life easence dry first. On the other hand if you can actually control her, you have the perfect spy and assassin at your fingertips, and some really hot kinky sex on the side for free
This goes Waaaaaay back to the very first edition of D&D, Gary Gygax (creator of Dungeons & Dragons) himself wrote Rule #1: The rules are optional, if you don't like a rule, get rid of it or change it, but once you do this be careful about going back to it later. I can't number the amount of times a game got bogged down by arguements over rules. If you want the succubus to be able to have sex without risking killing her partner, the simple answer is "do it". However changing around things like the profane gift ability need to be done carefully, the succubus removing the gift herself is set up kind of like a retribution. Someone else removing it, like a cleric, has no major side effects. When in doubt follow your best judgement, and above all talk with your players, they might have ideas you haven't thought of.
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Honey, women ALWAYS let men think they are in charge.... For a while ;-)
There is a roleplay (non-mechanic) aspect of the succubus a lot of people seem to overlook all the time. While the book write up defines an act of passion as a kiss, you have to keep in mind these books were published knowing younger kids would be reading them. The Succubus as a whole is a VERY dangerous creature. She uses her feminine wiles to get what she wants, when she wants it. Even in the beastiary write up they allude to the fact these creatures are extremely charming, and are known to rule legions from the shadows. The Succubus is a seducer, by her very nature she is a creature whos life revolves around sex. While I myself have played a Succubus, you have to be cautious playing one, even a small slip of the tongue can lead to extremely X rated scenarios. On another note, a succubus could change her alignment for any of about ten billion reasons, but ALWAYS keep in mind, you can take the evil out of a Succubus, but you CAN'T take the Succubus out of the girl. Once a Succubus, always a succubus. I studied a lot of different references to the succubus while playing one, these are creatures hell bent for leather to cause chaos, strife, and misery. They also represent the darkest aspects of our sexual desires, and nightmares. They are often portrayed as extremely aggressive sexual predators, that don't sleep, don't eat, and don't age, who don't give a hoot about such things as gender based sexuality, women are fair game as much as men. Things like sadomasochism or dominance and submission are bread and butter to a succubus. If you want a truly imersive character you have to keep these things in mind, she could well be fighting against her nature, and trying valiantly to be a good girl, but one roll of the dice can have her slipping back into old habbits like an addict suffering a relapse. Classes that mesh well with a succubus are not easy to find, but if you want to keep in tune with the fact she can fight like a warrior on her own already, but prefers not to, consider a Rogue, Ninja, Sorcerer, or a witch. The sorcerer or witch will benefit greatly from her enhanced charisma, and the rogue and ninja still take advantage of her enhanced dexterity. With a chaotic neutral succubus a ninja would go well if you want a silent killer who is more out for their own self interests, and money is going to be on her list of wants. While assassination is seen as an act of evil, there are plenty of reasons to kill for money, she could only take contracts on evil or sadistic men to be killed. Your imagination is your limit, as long as it will play well, and your DM/GM Thinks it will work, do it. If not, try the age old art of compromise, some truly epic characters have crossed my games because of imaginitive players. Above all, remember it's a game, it's all about having fun, so as the old saying goes, you never know until you try.
I would like to note as both a player and as a DM that I agree your points of view are valid, and well thought out. However (yes here comes the bombshell), adding a succubus to a game in the first place, needs to be VERY carefully thought out. The Succubus by its very nature rips open a whole new dimension in play, in a nut shell, sex. These creatures are cruel, sadistic, and in some ways exemplify evil. These creatures are evil females hell bent for leather on causing strife, and being the darkest kind of sexual predator imaginable. I have played a Succubus as a character before, and trust me the campaign got into the rated X category very quickly. Such a thing must be handled maturely, and with care as the succubus teptesents our darkest desires, and our darkest fears. As to one being a cohort, the same thing needs to apply. And it doesn't have to be a case where a paladin saved her, anyone could attract her attention for a plethora of different reasons. It could be a rogue who stole into her bed chamber by mistake, and she was, for whatever reason, fascinated with him or her. As to a Succubus *always* being chaotic evil, come on people, alignment is essentially your world view. Your philosophy in life. It CAN change for even the simplest of reasons. This game is all about imagination, challenging the status quo shouldn't be that much of a stretch, and yes even the darkest evil feind can feel love. If a Succubus fell in love with someone, is it so impossible to think she just might change her outlook on life if they love her back? Tera73 |