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Dear Abadar, I'm such a forum newb; in between creating new threads and thinking I deleted your post, phew :p

You make some very good points! Especially concerning their continued interests in the house itself; Just like you suggested Vorel is a much more active participant in the matters, more an active presence bound to the house than just inscribed feelings of hatred/misogony; I'm not going to steamtroll them into performing this but would like it as an alternative to tie up loose threads. As for him being too strong, I'm considering ways of mitigating this without selling liches as weaklings overall, mainly having him be greatly weakened just after his awakening but rapidly gaining strength, to him actually being somewhat grateful to his "saviors" and trading favors or sparing those who helped him.


Hello good peeps! My group just got to Foxglove manor, with the interesting addition of Aldern already being disposed of ahead of time (cockiness on my part, as well as ingenuity and good roll on a final Magic Missile), so my party of

Dragon Sorceress with insane stats (before the prestige class) 6
Monk/Druid (mainly druid) who enjoys juggling Flaming Spheres 5
Witch, specialized in Coup de gráce's 5
Invulnerable Rager Barbarian, currently more absorbant than a sponge 5

are going to be short one climactic finale, UNLESS, and here's where things are going to get wild; I'm going to give them the chance of "solving" this situation by transferring Vorel's soul from the house itself to another vessel, in short (dice gods willing) completing the ritual that was thwarted. Of course they're going to be faced with the prospect of dealing with a newly awakened "lich", and I do say "lich" because I'm planning on leaving it partly up to them what vessel they implant the spirit in, with varied consequences depending on their choice;

my question to you, dear forumgoers, is thus: What do you think would constitute a good phylactery for the good lich, and how would you like to see this affect his final state? The only one I've planned so far:

Remains of his body: Plague/Phage-themed lich, awakening over 8 or so rounds to his full powers, sure to become a recurring threat for the rest of the campaign.

If you have any cool ideas/features to include in the eventual encounter these would gladly be accepted as well!

Any/all ideas very welcome!