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As a new GM, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around retrying some skill checks.

The official rules say you can retry a perception check and disable device checks for as many times as you want. Do people actually allow this?

This makes no sense to me.

For example, lets say a character is trying to hear noise from inside a room behind a closed door. The DC to hear this noise is 20. The character tries it, and rolls a 12. If he keeps standing there rolling, he will eventually get a 20.
Let's assume the noise level remains EXACTLY the same inside that room for the entire duration.

Why should he be able to retry it over and over, if his character WAS NOT able to hear this the first time?

Another example is traps. Assuming the PC CAN reach the target DC with a good roll, why should he be able to keep rerolling until he gets it?
Not detecting the trap the first time, as I see it, should mean his character CANNOT detect it and therefore not allow him any more tries.

If the trap's DC is reachable for him, whats the point of even rolling at all. He can just roll until he gets a 20, and that way, either discover the trap or verify for certain there is no trap he can identify.

Why would a player not sit there rolling for hours until he can get the highest possible roll ? Otherwise he can't be certain he didnt miss something.

Any new light on this would be appreciated :) Thanks!


Hi,

As a new GM, I'm having a hard time handling trap finding perception checks by my Rogue player.

Let's say he is actively searching for traps. What area\radius\distance does his perception check apply to?
There is no mention of this in the rules that I can find...

Also, let's say the rogue wants to check a corridor of 30ft for Traps.
Does he need to make only one perception check, because that is his movement speed per turn? if he fails, does he activate the trap because he "walked" into it while trying to spot traps?

Any extra general help on how this is handled would be appreciated.

Thanks!


Hey,

Sorry for the noobish question, but can someone explain to me the difference between Pathfinder books (campaign settings and adventure paths) that have (OGL) and (PFRPG) after their titles?

What is the difference between books for OGL and books for PFRPG ?

Can I use both for Pathfinder?

Thanks!